Hmm. I've had a change of attitude on this hi-viz thing

[willytheekid]

(S)he didn't mention they were DRIVING - maybe they were parked up and feeding. Every cop in the world does that...

Before you flood your panty liner mate I was not driving I was sitting on the side of the road.Thats why I said sitting in my car not driving.Maybe you have highlighted another problem. Its called SMIDCWIWRS (sorry mate i didn't comprehend what i was reading syndrome).

...sweet jesus!

Not Directed at OP!...directed at the many drivers that DO use their cars etc as Dinner tables and put the rest of us at....ohh...you know what!

(240...I wasnt having a dig at YOU ...I was just using you as an example of miss directed focus & attention loss, due to other activities inside a car (parked or otherwise!)...k )

...or does the problem I have clearly (apparently NOT) high-lighted not exist at all??

SMIDCWIWRS indeed!
...and I don't use panty liners...more of a "stuck up" tampon type of guy


...please understand I mean't no disrespect etc, and I hope you don't think this is the case...Ride safe

[pritch]

it only has to do so once and it's paid for itself.

But you didn't have to pay for yours.

[HenryDorsetCase]

M

awwwwww, kitty!

[Supertwin Don]

I've been a little sceptical over how much difference a hi-viz vest would make. I've thought if people can't see a 55w headlight coming at them let alone something the dimensions of a motorbike on the road, how much difference would a hi-viz vest make? Especially if it is obscured behind a fairing screen. I don't disregard hi-viz completely though and my next jacket will have some.

ANYWAY ... toodling home today after a brain-draining day, I leaned into a gentle tree lined curve minding my own business when my eyes were suddenly assaulted by two patches of yellow (rider and pillion in slip over elastic hi-viz vest things) coming the other way. What blew me away though was that the two patches of yellow registered consciously in my brain before the bike did ... and it was a freakin' Gold Wing! Perhaps the random thought 'bike coming the other way' did slip in and was dismissed as 'situation normal' before the hi-viz registered a half second later but the hi-viz certainly grabbed my attention like being slapped by a flounder.

Summary: if hi-viz grabs the attention of a biker who looks for bikes on the road, I guess perhaps it just may grab the attention of a car driver who doesn't look for bikes. This would be a good thing.

Still not keen on a vest thing (fiddly) but this is what I've been planning to buy when I have assembled the necessary financial wherewithall. http://www.revzilla.com/product/revit-dragon-jacket

a little (slightly alcohol induced) thought - when a biker sees the hi-viz stuff before he sees the bike, what was he looking for? a push bike rider, a horse rider, a road worker, etc. - we seem to be getting conditioned (coerced) to look for things OTHER than the actual object - leading to a decrease in the ability to judge just how far away said object is ( and how fast is it traveling) - is that headlight a very bright light far away, or a dim light close up ? and a lack of respect for the road workers!

[MSTRS:Me]

a little (slightly alcohol induced) thought - when a biker sees the hi-viz stuff before he sees the bike, what was he looking for? a push bike rider, a horse rider, a road worker, etc. - we seem to be getting conditioned (coerced) to look for things OTHER than the actual object - leading to a decrease in the ability to judge just how far away said object is ( and how fast is it traveling) - is that headlight a very bright light far away, or a dim light close up ? and a lack of respect for the road workers!

Persackerly...

[Conquiztador]

a little (slightly alcohol induced) thought - when a biker sees the hi-viz stuff before he sees the bike, what was he looking for? a push bike rider, a horse rider, a road worker, etc. - we seem to be getting conditioned (coerced) to look for things OTHER than the actual object - leading to a decrease in the ability to judge just how far away said object is ( and how fast is it traveling) - is that headlight a very bright light far away, or a dim light close up ? and a lack of respect for the road workers!

As I was reading the replies on this thread it struck me, we have overlooked the obvious solution!!! In the end of the 1800's they had this all sorted. What we need to campaign for is a man that walks in fron of the bike with a flag in his had to make everyone aware that there is a motorbike approaching. And clearly we should include the high-viz products here: A high-viz flag and vest for the man!!! I sooo deserve a medal for this!

Hmmm... wonder why they ever stopped that practice? Would have saved so many 100,000 lives!

[240]

...sweet jesus!

Not Directed at OP!...directed at the many drivers that DO use their cars etc as Dinner tables and put the rest of us at....ohh...you know what!

(240...I wasnt having a dig at YOU ...I was just using you as an example of miss directed focus & attention loss, due to other activities inside a car (parked or otherwise!)...k )

...or does the problem I have clearly (apparently NOT) high-lighted not exist at all??

SMIDCWIWRS indeed!
...and I don't use panty liners...more of a "stuck up" tampon type of guy


...please understand I mean't no disrespect etc, and I hope you don't think this is the case...Ride safe

All good mate

[FJRider]

I dont know why everybody doesn't wear Hi-vis gear ...Police wear it all (ok ...a lot of) the time ... I have never heard (much) about Cop's getting run into ... It MUST work then ...

[blue rider]

creative from the FFMC (French Federation of Pissed of Bikers, Federation Francaise des Motards en Colere)

i think it's rather cute, non?

[Oakie]

a little (slightly alcohol induced) thought - when a biker sees the hi-viz stuff before he sees the bike, what was he looking for? :

That's the point. I wasn't looking for anything ... just wending my way home gently and not concentrating fully (probably). The hi-viz announced itself without being looked for.

[Oakie]

The scariest re this is that clearly the propaganda is starting to work.

Nah, wasn't the propaganda that seared my eyeballs ... it was those two yellow blobs.

[blue rider]

Nah, wasn't the propaganda that seared my eyeballs ... it was those two yellow blobs.

would you assume the same effect to take place once everyone is yellow / orange / green or pink ( heavens forbid ) clad?

[Oakie]

would you assume the same effect to take place once everyone is yellow / orange / green or pink ( heavens forbid ) clad?

Wouldn't assume it but perhaps after a while (he dreamed) car drivers might see yellow blob and think "another damned biker". Who knows? I'd still never take it for granted that I'd been seen. That's one of the problems I've always had with hi-viz. Newbies wearing it may assume that they must have been seen.

[blue rider]

Wouldn't assume it but perhaps after a while (he dreamed) car drivers might see yellow blob and think "another damned biker". Who knows? I'd still never take it for granted that I'd been seen. That's one of the problems I've always had with hi-viz. Newbies wearing it may assume that they must have been seen.

I don't see how any driver will actually pay attention to it. Living in Auckland, i can guarantee you that the current visual pollution we are living with is just going to eat that extra speck of colour up like nothing.
I do believe that the only thing being promoted here is a fake sense of safety.

heck the only thing the driver of a car might see would be a naked chick riding ....and even then i would not guarantee it.

[Oakie]

heck the only thing the driver of a car might see would be a naked chick riding ....and even then i would not guarantee it.

Hmm. You should refer to my profile pic...