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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    No matter what, you cunts get hated on by the same people in threads like this whatever you say. I take my hat off to your persistance.

    Funny as fuck, I'd have a beer with you, (don't worry, I won't be sitting by the letter box awaiting an invitation) before this Scuba Steve character who only appears to be capable of writing, but not reading. That's a very unique problem though, could an educater type on here tell me how this poor fellow could have slipped through the cracks in the system?
    ??? I can write & read I am multi talented like that as for having a beer tho, your right you would do that before me, I don't drink the sewage water I prefer drinks with alcohol in them
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    Revenue Grab pure and simple. The official line can't be "We want your cash because we believe that you're driving unsafely through excessive speed.". The popo just toe the official line... but I bet they have their suspicions. Revenue Grab!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Revenue Grab pure and simple. The official line can't be "We want your cash because we believe that you're driving unsafely through excessive speed.". The popo just toe the official line... but I bet they have their suspicions. Revenue Grab!!!!!!!!!!
    I think "The Official Line" is ... if you break the rules of the Transport Act ... expect a penalty ...

    Be it cash ... or just your drivers licence ...

    The key is ... how much are you willing/affording to lose before you toe the "official line" ...

    So far ... I pay in (small) installments ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I think "The Official Line" is ... if you break the rules of the Transport Act ... expect a penalty ...

    Be it cash ... or just your drivers licence ...

    The key is ... how much are you willing/affording to lose before you toe the "official line" ...

    So far ... I pay in (small) installments ...
    I was trying to be nice and not mention The Rules. I've broken the speed limit just about every day this week, sometimes for a few seconds at a time, sometimes for a minute... although I dunno how far out my speedo is .

    I haven't paid in about 3 years now... I must be invisible
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Revenue Grab pure and simple. The official line can't be "We want your cash because we believe that you're driving unsafely through excessive speed.". The popo just toe the official line... but I bet they have their suspicions. Revenue Grab!!!!!!!!!!
    In the past I probably would have agreed with you, these days I think it's just blind stupidity according to the Paula Rosetintedglasses textbook.

    After all the fine for exceeding 100km/h by up to 10km/h over is only $30, I've seen it said before that the fine wouldn't even cover the costs associated with processing it. Given that it also carries 10 demerit points I see that as the bigger deterrent (from getting caught... ).

    The whole idea of the 10km/h tolerance was to allow for speedo error and the occasional variances in speed from terrain, that seemed like a very sensible idea. Getting pinged for 105km/h on a downhill or a passing lane (and you know the more unscrupulous HP's will be fishing in the busy pond) and getting 10 demerits sucks.
    I'd like to see a review of speed limits with perhaps a 120km/h limit introduced for motorways and major A condition roads where warranted, there's some roads at the other end of the scale that really shouldn't be 100km/h limit either, so not all about going faster, just sensible speed limits applied in a more targeted fashion. If 'they' did that I'd be a lot happier about the limit being heavily enforced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    In the past I probably would have agreed with you, these days I think it's just blind stupidity according to the Paula Rosetintedglasses textbook.

    After all the fine for exceeding 100km/h by up to 10km/h over is only $30, I've seen it said before that the fine wouldn't even cover the costs associated with processing it. Given that it also carries 10 demerit points I see that as the bigger deterrent (from getting caught... ).

    The whole idea of the 10km/h tolerance was to allow for speedo error and the occasional variances in speed from terrain, that seemed like a very sensible idea. Getting pinged for 105km/h on a downhill or a passing lane (and you know the more unscrupulous HP's will be fishing in the busy pond) and getting 10 demerits sucks.
    I'd like to see a review of speed limits with perhaps a 120km/h limit introduced for motorways and major A condition roads where warranted, there's some roads at the other end of the scale that really shouldn't be 100km/h limit either, so not all about going faster, just sensible speed limits applied in a more targeted fashion. If 'they' did that I'd be a lot happier about the limit being heavily enforced.
    Putting my rose tinted specs on, I'd rather see no limit, other than by schools and in towns etc... but heavily enforce dangerous driving on the "open" road and A roads. Those who kill themselves kill themselves, I have no problem with letting people do that. Those who are gonna fuck up are gonna fuck up irrespective of limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    Just heard from a reliable source that tickets will be issued by officers (and speed cameras) for 5km/h over the limit.

    Not just Waitangi weekend but for all of February.
    was listening to news talk zb danny watsons show and after he got angrey about this

    The police sent him a email explaining this was not permant thing

    funny thing he said he must got somone into trouble apprently was temp police chiefs

    press release somone must got rack up about it when got adverse reaction too it

    As mr watson said people supported when was hoilday scheme to reduce accidents

    But not as a permantant all month deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Putting my rose tinted specs on, I'd rather see no limit, other than by schools and in towns etc... but heavily enforce dangerous driving on the "open" road and A roads. Those who kill themselves kill themselves, I have no problem with letting people do that. Those who are gonna fuck up are gonna fuck up irrespective of limit.
    I agree 100%, unfortunately I can't ever see TPTB going for that - that's why I was suggesting something that might be more palatable for thems wot makes the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    I agree 100%, unfortunately I can't ever see TPTB going for that - that's why I was suggesting something that might be more palatable for thems wot makes the rules.
    Aye mate, hence putting my specs on. Wonder if the UK ever passed their 80mph legislation? (like many do under 90).
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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    In the past I probably would have agreed with you, these days I think it's just blind stupidity according to the Paula Rosetintedglasses textbook.

    After all the fine for exceeding 100km/h by up to 10km/h over is only $30, I've seen it said before that the fine wouldn't even cover the costs associated with processing it. Given that it also carries 10 demerit points I see that as the bigger deterrent (from getting caught... ).

    The whole idea of the 10km/h tolerance was to allow for speedo error and the occasional variances in speed from terrain, that seemed like a very sensible idea. Getting pinged for 105km/h on a downhill or a passing lane (and you know the more unscrupulous HP's will be fishing in the busy pond) and getting 10 demerits sucks.
    I'd like to see a review of speed limits with perhaps a 120km/h limit introduced for motorways and major A condition roads where warranted, there's some roads at the other end of the scale that really shouldn't be 100km/h limit either, so not all about going faster, just sensible speed limits applied in a more targeted fashion. If 'they' did that I'd be a lot happier about the limit being heavily enforced.
    +1

    gee was some twit on his show rang up said was motorcylist and more talked worse we sounded , rekoned he spoke for all of us that we have to pass everthing on the road

    For safety reasons omg what load of bs , i was thinking i dont pass hardly ever

    Said he did was when up close behind he choudint see the pot holes yeah right
    What road he ride i never had this problem either its embarrsing to hear

    And why do people have this duled theroy you get up close behind something to pass it
    its not nascar people its actually safer to stay behind and follow the safe distance rule then build up speed and on passing lanes if you must

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Aye mate, hence putting my specs on. Wonder if the UK ever passed their 80mph legislation? (like many do under 90).
    Last thing I read was a while back and it was still under consideration. At least the UK is starting to get an enlightened view of things, this move plus the decreasing use of speed cameras is a good move. Don't know why the NZTA can't look further afield for inspiration instead of blindly following Victoria, AU all the time.

    Edit: Just had a wee Google and it's a done deal: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sed-80mph.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    Last thing I read was a while back and it was still under consideration. At least the UK is starting to get an enlightened view of things, this move plus the decreasing use of speed cameras is a good move. Don't know why the NZTA can't look further afield for inspiration instead of blindly following Victoria, AU all the time.

    Edit: Just had a wee Google and it's a done deal: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sed-80mph.html
    aye... why would you think for yourself when you can spend years discussing the results of other country's attempts at speed control before talking about it some more before implementing a carbon copy from another country and later realising that this is NZ and not Germany

    bwaaaaa ha ha ha haaaaaaa@ perfectly decent people
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    Quote Originally Posted by actungbaby View Post
    And why do people have this duled theroy you get up close behind something to pass it
    its not nascar people its actually safer to stay behind and follow the safe distance rule then build up speed and on passing lanes if you must
    Not to mention that dropping back a little gives you a far better view of the road ahead and therefore better opportunity to make a safe pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    Not to mention that dropping back a little gives you a far better view of the road ahead and therefore better opportunity to make a safe pass.
    totally with u brother

    And am not having a go at motorcyclist either car drivers do it just as much,
    People i see in there turbo cars wtf its not like they go not enough bhp.

    Thats great part of having bike /car with bit of go

    And please no more passing on corners either i find scary to drive in my mx5 car sometimers.
    as drivers are doing dangerous overtakes i wonder if am going wear what happens next
    or my wife as well.

    The amount times i have to brake to protect somone esles ill thought out passing
    and thats on passing lanes .

    And on my pushbike to work its worse, as you have plenty of time to take in all they crazy
    driving damm, its eye opener getting back to the pushbike i tell you

    I wonder if there will ever a time we treat each like we whould like to be treated .

    Cutting down the road toll , and some paintence would go along to improve everones day.

    Myabe should have adverts on tv ,with some dude driving being polite and letting people in front
    with smile on his/her face / then pan to some dude driving like his pants where alright

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    Quote Originally Posted by actungbaby View Post
    totally brother

    And am not having a go at motorcyclist either car drivers do it just as much
    In there turbo cars wtf its not like they go not enough bhp.

    Thats great part of having bike /car with bit of ompph

    And please no on corners either i find scary to drive in my mx5 car
    as people doing dangerous overtakes wonder if am going wear what happens next
    or my wife as well

    amount times i have to brake to protect somone esles ill thought out passing
    and thats on passing lanes .

    And on my pushbike to work its worse as you have time to take in all they crazy
    driving damm its eye opener getting back to the pushbike i tell you

    I wonder be ever a time we treat each other like we care about each other go along way to
    Cutting the road toll that and some paintence go along way aslo

    Myabe should have add camoin with some dude driving being polite and letting people in front
    with smile on his/her face / then pan to some dude driving like his pants where alright
    I wonder, (and I'm just spit balling here). Are you from an English speaking country?

    I ask, because if you are there is sufficient evidence from your posts that you lack the slightest ability to form a sentence, in said language. My spelling is bad, but yours is fucken near unreadable!

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