Fast-food outlet expansion sparks alarm

[Scuba_Steve]

Nice work selectively omitting the bit where I said "On one hand, people need to have the freedom to choose for themselves."

I was pointing out the 2nd should never exist I had no problem with the 1st part & it wasn't a qualification so need not be included

[steve_t]

I was pointing out the 2nd should never exist I had no problem with the 1st part & it wasn't a qualification so need not be included

And again, as my first sentence said, there's a fine line between social responsibility and personal responsibility, and that line lies in a different place for everyone. Should people be allowed to choose EVERY facet of their lives? Should we abolish laws like no txting while you drive, no driving through a red light etc etc because they impinge upon the individuals right to choose for themselves? For me, these laws are fine because they are in the interest of the public weal. Some people might not agree with my view on them...

[scissorhands]

The problem I have with that is that often those so called "detrimental choices they make" advance society. Like don't play with steam it burns or Stay away from oil it messes your clothes up.

Quantum physics and junk food advancing humanity. Nice but hmmmm bit simplistic... I think of this often actually, thanks for wording it. It only advances society if eaters learn by their mistakes... is that happening?
Holy fat intake batman!

we are only as strong as our weakest link...
so its not just the poor who suffer a junk food society
its all of us paying for bad food choices of others
the childrens DNA quality gets screwed
the family jewels of our poorer neighbours are lost to corporate greed
the farmer plants a bad seed that grows into a sick forest

[Tigadee]

I suggest if we want to get rid of the fast-food restaurants, we should eat their food for six months straight and then sue them for providing unhealthy food.

They close down, we get rich enough to afford a nutritionist and personal trainers from lower socio-economic backgrounds, and the poor areas are rid of a health hazard... Everybody's happy.

[oneofsix]

I suggest if we want to get rid of the fast-food restaurants, we should eat their food for six months straight and then sue them for providing unhealthy food.

They close down, we get rich enough to afford a nutritionist and personal trainers from lower socio-economic backgrounds, and the poor areas are rid of a health hazard... Everybody's happy.

Your logic is interesting.

If you think fast food places provide unhealthy food you should look at the food at a 'normal' restaurant. A Maccas burger is healthy in comparsion, OK don't eat the chips and the fizzy, the fizzy is cheaper at the supermarket anyhow. And talking about supermarkets and what is available there Bring back the green grocer

"we get rich enough to afford a nutritionist and personal trainers from lower socio-economic backgrounds" but would we? not frigging likely or we wouldn't have a lower socio-economic group in the first place. Too close to sharing the wealth which equals communism for many.

[Buyasta]

I suggest if we want to get rid of the fast-food restaurants, we should eat their food for six months straight and then sue them for providing unhealthy food.

They close down, we get rich enough to afford a nutritionist and personal trainers from lower socio-economic backgrounds, and the poor areas are rid of a health hazard... Everybody's happy.

You appear to be assuming we'd all survive those six months, and you know what they say about assumptions, right?

[scissorhands]

I'm confused, which one of the fast foods does the NZ Govt own??? or is it that they're taxing other foods to a price people just can't afford??? The Govt has nothing to do with it.

The only ones "screwing NZ under-classes" are the "health" crazies & their friends, simple as that

Personal attacks and poorly researched statements. I will pray for you

The government is the parent to the nation
Would you let your kids run amok without direction? Eat whatever they want, its the same thing. Mum and Dad are fucktards and bad parents....

[Scuba_Steve]

And again, as my first sentence said, there's a fine line between social responsibility and personal responsibility, and that line lies in a different place for everyone. Should people be allowed to choose EVERY facet of their lives? Should we abolish laws like no txting while you drive, no driving through a red light etc etc because they impinge upon the individuals right to choose for themselves? For me, these laws are fine because they are in the interest of the public weal. Some people might not agree with my view on them...

Now your starting to scarecrow it. Thats no longer protecting them from themselves, thats protecting others from them, those laws are fine. It's the laws protecting one from oneself that are not ok

You appear to be assuming we'd all survive those six months, and you know what they say about assumptions, right?

Can't speak for all but I did , stay'd 69kgs the whole time too... That's not what the health crazies want to hear is it???

[scissorhands]

stay'd 69kgs the whole time too... That's not what the health crazies want to hear is it???

crack is great for staying thin

[oneofsix]

Personal attacks and poorly researched statements. I will pray for you

The government is the parent to the nation
Would you let your kids run amok without direction? Eat whatever they want, its the same thing. Mum and Dad are fucktards and bad parents....

the nation is really fucked if the government are its parent.

A nation works best on personal responsibly, all governments that try to control personal choice eventually fail big time. Ask an Egyptian, a Syrian, a Russian even.

[Scuba_Steve]

Personal attacks and poorly researched statements. I will pray for you

The government is the parent to the nation
Would you let your kids run amok without direction? Eat whatever they want, its the same thing. Mum and Dad are fucktards and bad parents....

say what??? where was the "personal attack"??? your a "health" crazy ain't you???
as for "poorly researched statements"? your the one that considers the Govt "parent to the nation" & brought up this article blaming the Govt. Might be worth taking a look in the mirror ay

[oneofsix]

Can't speak for all but I did , stay'd 69kgs the whole time too... That's not what the health crazies want to hear is it???

Reminds me of that movie Supersize me the fast food bashers like to quote. They all forget the guy that eat 2 big macs a day and stayed slim and healthy. And when they quote how sick the reporter got they forget the radical dietary change he underwent or that he would have got just as sick going the other way.

[Scuba_Steve]

Reminds me of that movie Supersize me the fast food bashers like to quote. They all forget the guy that eat 2 big macs a day and stayed slim and healthy. And when they quote how sick the reporter got they forget the radical dietary change he underwent or that he would have got just as sick going the other way.

Yea that movie brung disappointment, only saw half of it cause it made us hungry so we went on our mission to BK (whooper being the biggest burger around) only to find the whooper paled in size compared to their Big Mac & cost a lot more too.

[oneofsix]

If the government are the parents, what does that make the high court because it just told mum and dad off? http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farm...overnment-told

[scissorhands]

say what??? where was the "personal attack"??? your a "health" crazy ain't you???
as for "poorly researched statements"? your the one that considers the Govt "parent to the nation" & brought up this article blaming the Govt. Might be worth taking a look in the mirror ay

I'm being facetious (Ed).

Who else would you blame for a junk food nation? The drongos in front of the telly? Everyone knows gubbermint is run by corporates

Your logic blames young kids for being fat. I maintain my position of government responsibility being poor