A question for the cops

[rastuscat]

Totally agree.

That's not the KB way.

[Zedder]

That's not the KB way.

Don't care.

[oneofsix]

Totally agree.

Originally Posted by nadroj
If you were a qualified, licenced tradesman working on a worksite, would you welcome the authorities checking everyone's credentials to ensure unqualified, unlicenced imposters were not allowed to pinch your work?

This should be the same with licence & rego checks to protect our enjoyable activities.

You two are implying that a tradesman's licence is just a tax. A tradesman's qualification equates with the driving licence as the both have a skill and knowledge test element.

Don't fall for the trap of grouping the licence with the registration. Registration is tax and nothing to do with skill or ability. Policing registration is therefore tax collection.

[Zedder]

You two are implying that a tradesman's licence is just a tax. A tradesman's qualification equates with the driving licence as the both have a skill and knowledge test element.

Don't fall for the trap of grouping the licence with the registration. Registration is tax and nothing to do with skill or ability. Policing registration is therefore tax collection.

Yes, registration is a tax and although way over priced, having it allows me to drive/ride lawfully.

[BoristheBiter]

You two are implying that a tradesman's licence is just a tax. A tradesman's qualification equates with the driving licence as the both have a skill and knowledge test element.

Don't fall for the trap of grouping the licence with the registration. Registration is tax and nothing to do with skill or ability. Policing registration is therefore tax collection.

A tradesman qualification has nothing to do with skill or ability either.

[Flip]

I utterley disagree.

Youn are obviously are not a tradesman!

[psykonosis]

Depends on the size of the engine.

There aren't any harleys under 250cc that can be ridden legally unless the rider hold a full motorbike licence in NZ are there?

[SMOKEU]

There aren't any harleys under 250cc that can be ridden legally unless the rider hold a full motorbike licence in NZ are there?

There are 250cc and 175cc Harleys out there, but they haven't been made for many years and are quite rare.

[psykonosis]

There are 250cc and 175cc Harleys out there, but they haven't been made for many years and are quite rare.

A good ol classic bike then aye. Yeah they wouldn't be common at all

[GingerMidget]

Yep, random checks are random.

I got one today, and he looked at the back of the bike "hey aren't you meant to have an L plate?"

Got off, looked at the back and the cable ties, and swore. He laughed and sent me on my way home after I said I had another couple of them at home. No ticket!

I was a bit lucky I think.

[jrandom]

I was a bit lucky I think.

It's not luck.

Girls on motorbikes don't get tickets. At least, not often.

I've never been pulled over for something on a motorbike and then not been ticketed, and most of my male motorcycling friends are in the same boat, but every female motorcyclist I know has had that happen multiple times [edit: well, at least once].

I suppose it's a whole lot easier to pass the attitude test when ten million years of evolution is telling the cop that he should try and make you like him.

We need more gay traffic cops.

[GingerMidget]

Apparently I practice my innocent face. At least according to my dad. He got pulled up in the ute for the exact same dumbarse thing I did a week later, but he got a fine. Me? I looked like I was about to cry and got away with it. I won't go on record, but it was stupid and I learned from it.

[FJRider]

Apparently I practice my innocent face. At least according to my dad. He got pulled up in the ute for the exact same dumbarse thing I did a week later, but he got a fine. Me? I looked like I was about to cry and got away with it. I won't go on record, but it was stupid and I learned from it.

Most cry online afterwards .... if works for you.

[jrandom]

... it was stupid and I learned from it.

Mmyes.

I always boggle at the anecdotal reliability of the "oh shit, it must've fallen off in the last ten minutes" response to "where's your L plate?"

It seems to work every time. You'd think that at some point the general police consciousness would wise up to the fact that L plates shouldn't just fall off like that.

In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if an L plate falling off and the rider genuinely failing to notice that between then and when they got pulled over has never actually happened.

ratuscat, please tell me that you know of at least one occasion on which the mystical bullshit power of this story has failed to save a learner rider from a ticket for not complying with their licence conditions.

[scumdog]

Mmyes.

I always boggle at the anecdotal reliability of the "oh shit, it must've fallen off in the last ten minutes" response to "where's your L plate?"

It seems to work every time. You'd think that at some point the general police consciousness would wise up to the fact that L plates shouldn't just fall off like that.

In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if an L plate falling off and the rider genuinely failing to notice that between then and when they got pulled over has never actually happened.

ratuscat, please tell me that you know of at least one occasion on which the mystical bullshit power of this story has failed to save a learner rider from a ticket for not complying with their licence conditions.

My tuppence-worth: If I suspect the 'oh it's fallen off and I didn't know' is bullshit I give them a compliance ticket - turn up at the cop shop with a new 'L' plate fitted and all will be sweet.