Do you know give way rules changing on 25 March? Give way rule quiz

**_Shrek_** · 12th March 2012, 17:36

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Which is unusual for drivers of such vehicles.

i drive one of them

**_Shrek_** · 12th March 2012, 17:43

Originally Posted by Gianz

I've been driving/riding 3 years here in Nz and finally I will obey the rules for the first time from the 25th of march. If I think it's stupid I don't do it, especially if the government asks me to.

Oh goodie a hole 3 years aye, well sonny if you don't like the way we do things over here, there is a right that you have & thats the right to flock off back to where you came from

because if I had my way dip sticks like you wouldn't have any rights

**Tigadee** · 13th March 2012, 07:05

A friend sent me this... Better stay off the roads on the 25th.

**Mental Trousers** · 16th March 2012, 09:53

This is far more useful

http://www.giveway.co.nz/interactive

**Maha** · 16th March 2012, 09:55

If you are turning right....GIVE WAY...what is hard about that?

**oneofsix** · 16th March 2012, 09:59

Originally Posted by Maha

If you are turning right....GIVE WAY...what is hard about that?

what was hard about if they are on your right give way? or to make it more personal if they are going to hit your right side, stop.
What's hard is the confusion that is going to occur or the object that is going to hit you when you aren't expecting it

BTW it isn't always if you are turning right give way but it used to be always give way to the right, now there will be an except.

**Maha** · 16th March 2012, 10:05

Originally Posted by oneofsix

what was hard about if they are on your right give way? or to make it more personal if they are going to hit your right side, stop.
What's hard is the confusion that is going to occur or the object that is going to hit you when you aren't expecting it

BTW it isn't always if you are turning right give way but it used to be always give way to the right, now there will be an except.

The word Vigilant comes to mind...
All what you say, happens now...that wont change.
And show me a reference where, if you are turning right give way, wont be law?
Some thngs are just way over-thought.

**steve_t** · 16th March 2012, 10:20

Originally Posted by oneofsix

what was hard about if they are on your right give way? or to make it more personal if they are going to hit your right side, stop.
What's hard is the confusion that is going to occur or the object that is going to hit you when you aren't expecting it

BTW it isn't always if you are turning right give way but it used to be always give way to the right, now there will be an except.

Now there will be an except? I came across the exact problem of the current rule the other day. The guy in front of me was turning left and there was an oncoming car turning right. The guy in front of me didn't bother to check that I was behind him going straight so stopped to give way. He was supposed to go. I couldn't squeeze around him (I was in the car) so all 3 of us came to a stand still at the intersection for several seconds. The current rule is too hard for most numpty drivers - When turning left, give way to oncoming vehicles turning right EXCEPT if there is a vehicle behind you going straight.

**oneofsix** · 16th March 2012, 10:28

Originally Posted by steve_t

Now there will be an except? I came across the exact problem of the current rule the other day. The guy in front of me was turning left and there was an oncoming car turning right. The guy in front of me didn't bother to check that I was behind him going straight so stopped to give way. He was supposed to go. I couldn't squeeze around him (I was in the car) so all 3 of us came to a stand still at the intersection for several seconds. The current rule is too hard for most numpty drivers - When turning left, give way to oncoming vehicles turning right EXCEPT if there is a vehicle behind you going straight.

Not quite. It is/was called a shadow turn and you were allowed to turn in the shadow of the straight through car IF that car was blocking the right turner. But as you couldn't get past the left turner, there was no shadow so the left turn still had to give way to the right turner.

Don't worry it the shadow turn is the same sort of thing people can't work out at round abouts, if the vehicle that you are thinking about giving way to can't go because of another vehicle then there isn't a need to give way to them.

**MSTRS:Me** · 16th March 2012, 10:29

But you weren't going through...you couldn't.
The problem in your scenario only took place when the left-turner was angled left and couldn't see in his mirrors. But if there was room for the straight-throughs where's the problem? The opposing right-turner would (and will) be giving way to them, anyway. So the left-turner would sit there when they didn't have to...should be a lesson to do the headcheck thing, instead of mirrors only.

**Scuba_Steve** · 16th March 2012, 11:04

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

This is far more useful

http://www.giveway.co.nz/interactive

That had me realize something I didn't think of before... This new rule is much more dangerous for deadly peadlys (#12 is the one I'm talking bout).
These guys are doing their illegal driving quite a bit slower than it will be done in real life, so the deadly peadly shown in #12 will now have a much higher chance of being side-swiped as cage pays no attention to the left as they swing round the corner

**Mental Trousers** · 16th March 2012, 11:08

If I was a cyclist (that shit is far too dangerous so I'll stick to something safe like racing motorbikes) I'd be thinking about parking the bike up for approximately a month or so. Or sticking the bike in the car and driving out of town before getting on it. Anything to keep well away from intersections for a bit.

**swbarnett** · 16th March 2012, 15:39

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

That had me realize something I didn't think of before... This new rule is much more dangerous for deadly peadlys (#12 is the one I'm talking bout).
These guys are doing their illegal driving quite a bit slower than it will be done in real life, so the deadly peadly shown in #12 will now have a much higher chance of being side-swiped as cage pays no attention to the left as they swing round the corner

That cyclist is just asking for trouble. Under no circumstances should a vehicle be undertaken. The cyclist should've passed the car on the right, cycle lane or no.

**pritch** · 16th March 2012, 15:49

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

Or sticking the bike in the car and driving out of town before getting on it. Anything to keep well away from intersections for a bit.

Nah. Do what I do, ride on the footpath.

SWB, that sounds wierd. There has been a bad traffic situation here the last few days due to work on a bridge on the main northern route out of town.
On the moped I've 'filtered" past hundreds of cars using the cycle lane until I could take to the footpath to cross the bridge.