Police target motorcyclists in another safety campaign

[caseye]

When you get your licence you sign it and agree to the conditions, of which there is this

Drivers and other road users to comply with directions of enforcement officers, etc
(1AA) A person driving a motor vehicle that has a warning notice given under section 22AF attached to it must comply with that notice.
(1) A person must comply with sections 68, 69, 70, 71A, 72, and 73 (which relate to the administration of breath screening tests, evidential breath tests, and blood tests).
(2) A person must comply with all lawful requirements, directions, and requests made by an enforcement officer under any of sections 68, 69, 70, 71A, 72, and 73.
(3) A person must comply with all lawful requirements and requests made by a medical practitioner or medical officer under section 72 or section 73 (which relate to the administration of blood tests).
(4) A person may not—
(a) remove, obscure, or render indistinguishable a notice affixed to a vehicle under section 115, unless current evidence of vehicle inspection has been obtained for the vehicle or (if the notice was given under section 96(1B)) the direction requiring the vehicle not to be driven on a road has been cancelled under section 102(3)(b) or section 110(3)(a)(ii); or
(b) drive a vehicle to which a notice given under section 115 applies until current evidence of vehicle inspection has been obtained for, and is displayed on, the vehicle.
(5) Drivers and other persons must comply with all other lawful requirements, directions, notices, and requests given to, and prohibitions imposed on, them under this Act by an enforcement officer or a dangerous goods enforcement officer.

It is not a right to have a licence and if you don't like the rules then don't ride/drive.

Quite right, it is not a God or NZTA given right to drive a motor vehicle of any sort. Never said it was.
I said that the Police used to get by just nicely thank you very much, when they had no "lawful " right to simply randomly stop any motorists they choose for no particular reason.
I also said I was sick and tired of having our rights as ordinary citizens impinged particularly when it comes to traffic matters and Police simply in the name of the greater good.Read, allowing for the lowest common denominator.
We earn the privilage of a drivers licence a firearms licence and any other sort of licence that you wish to name and we then pay for it.
Nowadays "repeatedly".
We do have a bloody stupid Bill Of Rights( Something that to this day I've never actually clapped eyes on personally) in which it does say, that ordinary citizens going about their lawful business will not be able to be stopped by, interrogated by or otherwise impeded by Police or anyone else without good cause.
Therein lies my point.
Along with the constant eroding of whatever rights and privilages that we do still have as time goes by and different pollies and interest groups decide that this or that is not good for you. therefore we are going to protect you from yourself and pass laws that make you do it our way.
So if you wish to waste time and effort pointing out the obvious, then be my guest, but please at least make some effort to understand my point.

[mossy1200]

Brittany hit the pavement. "It was as if every breath I had ever taken rushed out of me in an instant," she says. "I could feel every inch of my body hitting the road, tumbling, sliding and grinding into the unforgiving surface. In a matter of seconds I had come to the conclusion that I was going to die, and I was OK with it. I knew this was far worse than anything I had ever gone through, and I was convinced I would not live to see the next day." She closed her eyes as she continued her 522-foot tumble down Highway 550. "I never lost consciousness," she says, "but I remember wishing that I had."

http://www.google.co.nz/imgres?imgur...%3Disch&itbs=1

[onearmedbandit]

Went out for a ride today, saw two cops but neither targeted me.

[MSTRS:Me]

... ordinary citizens going about their lawful business will not be able to be stopped by, interrogated by or otherwise impeded by Police or anyone else without good cause.
...

There's the hook. They decide at any time, what is good cause, and it can and does change as current circumstances dictate.

[caseye]

Jeez John, stop making sense will ya!
This is how it always was, they decided, without the blanket authority that they now have.
It used to make them think about, what if I do this? and it stopped some Police persons making complete asses of themselves.
These days when! they do, they slink behind the "we can and we will Cause banner"
it makes me puke.
Worse, some of us think it's OK for them to have such powers.
I don't, can you tell?

[Bassmatt]

Brittany hit the pavement. "It was as if every breath I had ever taken rushed out of me in an instant," she says. "I could feel every inch of my body hitting the road, tumbling, sliding and grinding into the unforgiving surface. In a matter of seconds I had come to the conclusion that I was going to die, and I was OK with it. I knew this was far worse than anything I had ever gone through, and I was convinced I would not live to see the next day." She closed her eyes as she continued her 522-foot tumble down Highway 550. "I never lost consciousness," she says, "but I remember wishing that I had."

http://www.google.co.nz/imgres?imgur...%3Disch&itbs=1

And being stopped by police so they can see my paid up rego, up to date warrant, and that I wear atgatt will stop this how?

[mossy1200]

And being stopped by police so they can see my paid up rego, up to date warrant, and that I wear atgatt will stop this how?

Refer my previous entry bottom page 11 and read the whole thread at how many people think that riding in poor choice clothing is a good idea.

Police target motorcycles due to a percentage of motorcyclists that get themselves noticed by being eggs and taking risks.If none of us acted like tards maybe we wouldnt all be treated this way.Target vehicles are comuters in Wellington..Reason is some are traveling ill prepared for the event that a accident may happen.Idd say its likely you could ride around Wellington in quality riding gear and not get pulled over.If you hop on a scooter in jandles and shorts its very likely you will get pulled over due to the fact if you dont care about yourself then its likely you dont care about others.To me thats justified reason to be stopped to make sure your vehicle is safe and your not drunk etc.

[Bassmatt]

Refer my previous entry bottom page 11 and read the whole thread at how many people think that riding in poor choice clothing is a good idea.

Police target motorcycles due to a percentage of motorcyclists that get themselves noticed by being eggs and taking risks.If none of us acted like tards maybe we wouldnt all be treated this way.Target vehicles are comuters in Wellington..Reason is some are traveling ill prepared for the event that a accident may happen.Idd say its likely you could ride around Wellington in quality riding gear and not get pulled over.If you hop on a scooter in jandles and shorts its very likely you will get pulled over due to the fact if you dont care about yourself then its likely you dont care about others.To me thats justified reason to be stopped to make sure your vehicle is safe and your not drunk etc.

I have got no problem if they pull over people in jandals etc and chat to them about wearing better gear, but thats not what they are doing is it?
If you think this is what the campaign is for you are either the eternal optimist or very naive

[Katman]

I said that the Police used to get by just nicely thank you very much, when they had no "lawful " right to simply randomly stop any motorists they choose for no particular reason.

Society has changed considerably since then Mark - and not for the better.

[mossy1200]

I have got no problem if they pull over people in jandals etc and chat to them about wearing better gear, but thats not what they are doing is it?
If you think this is what the campaign is for you are either the eternal optimist or very naive

No I believe the campain is about the fact that the action of some have made us stand out enough to get noticed.
The said campain may involve 4 motorcycle cops being asked to deliver a message of safe riding or flocks of popo targeting everyone and making us pay tax for being bikies.Which one it is we dont even know yet.
You have bikers for the last year making statments like its cheaper to put your rego on hold and pay a ticket every 2 years.You have people advertising 125scooters on tard me as registered mopeds that dont need warrents and can be riden on learners car licences.When people make these statments and get caught its their own fault.
I keep my bike legal,I dress to reduce risks as much as possible and I try not stand out like an idiot.
I dont mind losing 5mins to have my bike checked.Try adopting the idea that random checks help to prevent some dangers on the road.

[Bassmatt]

No I believe the campain is about the fact that the action of some have made us stand out enough to get noticed.
The said campain may involve 4 motorcycle cops being asked to deliver a message of safe riding or flocks of popo targeting everyone and making us pay tax for being bikies.Which one it is we dont even know yet.
You have bikers for the last year making statments like its cheaper to put your rego on hold and pay a ticket every 2 years.You have people advertising 125scooters on tard me as registered mopeds that dont need warrents and can be riden on learners car licences.When people make these statments and get caught its their own fault.
I keep my bike legal,I dress to reduce risks as much as possible and I try not stand out like an idiot.
I dont mind losing 5mins to have my bike checked.Try adopting the idea that random checks help to prevent some dangers on the road.

So the answer to people selling scooters registered as mopeds on trademe is to run a checkpoint type campaign targetting motorcycles?

[mossy1200]

So the answer to people selling scooters registered as mopeds on trademe is to run a checkpoint type campaign targetting motorcycles?

You kinda missed the parts like people openly stating they would rather not pay registration and pay the tickets instead.
You missed the 5% of riders that do stupid shit and stand out in other road users minds.

collectivelly we have put our worst foot forward and been noticed and now we are being targeted.

Example last week I got passed by ducati ss doing 160+ lane splitting on motorway.He didnt just pass me he passed dozens of cages.The message he sent was i dont give a fork about anyone.Average motorist looks at him and gets back up at motorcyclists.this shit is happening every day so we become targets for clamp downs.Its no different than the forktard boy racers in Christchurch.Every young person in flash sporty car gets a rep based on the action of others good or bad.

[Berries]

Brittany hit the pavement. "It was as if every breath I had ever taken rushed out of me in an instant," she says. "I could feel every inch of my body hitting the road, tumbling, sliding and grinding into the unforgiving surface. In a matter of seconds I had come to the conclusion that I was going to die, and I was OK with it. I knew this was far worse than anything I had ever gone through, and I was convinced I would not live to see the next day." She closed her eyes as she continued her 522-foot tumble down Highway 550. "I never lost consciousness," she says, "but I remember wishing that I had."

Ahh, the famous Brittany is posted again.

I wonder if she has learnt how to hold on yet? All the ATGATT in the world won't help her next time she falls off and gets run over by the following truck.

[red mermaid]

Get the chip off your shoulders and get over it.

I can state catergorically that since at least 1983 MoT (when they existed) and Police have had the authority to stop any vehicle on a road that they feel like.

They have always exercised that authority.

As part of Intell led Policing these days Police are always targetting different groups for different reasons, not only in Road Policing.

I spend most of my work day targetting one type of road user, and always have a great time interacting with them as they do with me.

Get over it, it exists, it always has, and most likely always will.

[mossy1200]

Refer post 1

Target area WELLINGTON

So if you live in Dunedin like I used to or a smaller city or town you wont relise how bad the habits are getting HERE,of A-scooter riders B-a small percentage of motorcyclists and C-a percentage of motorcycles in comuter traffic.To add to it people making claims that they would rather break the rules and pay the odd fine.

I drive around in a service vehicle and see the behaviour of a more than a few riders.They are letting us down and they are being noticed and the result is its been decided that we should be targeted for re-education here.

I just dont see why you cant accept that there is a reason why this is happening.