Will I get my 100 ready in time for Taupo?

**jasonu** · 12th April 2012, 14:40

Originally Posted by husaberg

Oh I was actually thinking the same thing too, but i believe the quality of competition is higher.
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Now that is a brave statement.

**crazy man** · 12th April 2012, 15:48

l think the competition has always been there in the top 5. we are just lucky morley sheiffs is still not racing to deal to us

**F5 Dave** · 12th April 2012, 16:03

You only have to look at Wellington scene to see that the game has been lifted. I mean it started out low & I had the measure of everyone, but that was some time ago. Are we talking bikes or riders?

The bikes have got better (ok some 2 strokes aside) as stiffer frames, better suspension & brakes. Usable power & a reasonable amount, but largely tyres are streets ahead.

In wgtn; the front end of B grade would have done pretty well in A grade of a few years ago. In A grade qualifying Hamish posted a 41.9. not too long ago we thought 43 anything was the shizzle. I posted a 43.9 on my 50 last saturday. New Tyres help.

**kel** · 12th April 2012, 16:04

Originally Posted by jasonu

I don't think the apparent unreliability of the current 2 strokes can be totally put down to all the HP they have 'found' causing extra stress on the motors. A good platform, design, engineering, careful (and smart) assembly and proper maintainance (and SOME cash) has a lot to do with consistantly finishing races at or near the pointy end.
Just my opinion and in my opinion it is the correct opinion...

Well I cant argue with the "good platform" bit but some of us have choosen the air cooled 125 platform and we're achieveing power figures some 50% higher than the motorcrossers of the same era, there is no way the Japanese were building in that much tolerance into their parts/materials. When you exceed the factories abilites by such extreme levels (again Im talking air cooled motors) then you really are pushing the limit as none of the current legal parts we use are designed around an air cooled platform, piston cam being a perfect example. Then we have the programmable ignitions, power jets etc which were unheard of in buckets 10 years ago, extra stress HELL YES!
Things have moved forward Jason the level of design, engineering and smart assembly included. We could detuned the engines for 100% reliability and still smoke the buckets of old but thats a limited goal.
ps. a spare bike also helps with consistently finishing races at or near the pointy end

**F5 Dave** · 12th April 2012, 16:06

Yes I am glad of my (spare bike) 50 lately. Just can't do the biz in traffic. Or against really fast bikes without taking liberties one can't continue for a race.

**crazy man** · 12th April 2012, 16:13

l think the tyres have been the big change . rs125 or gp racing at manfeild have gone from 1.13.8 to 1.13.5 from 1995 till now but bucket never ran the same tire till not that long ago

**TZ350** · 12th April 2012, 16:13

Originally Posted by jasonu

Hell my KERG (25hp) finished the Ohakea GP, a visit to Manfield and Ohakune, several Taupos and numerous Mt Welli meets on the same motor and not one blow up.

I don't think the apparent unreliability of the current 2 strokes can be totally put down to all the HP they have 'found' causing extra stress on the motors.

Just my opinion and in my opinion it is the correct opinion...

I think your opinion is right.

We also have had engines that have done many reliable racing miles too.

The current rash of problems are mostly self inflicted learning experiences.

And you tend to get a bit of that when your trying your hand at something new ....

**crazy man** · 12th April 2012, 16:24

Originally Posted by TZ350

I think your opinion is right.

We also have had engines that have done many reliable racing miles too.

The current rash of problems are mostly self inflicted learning experiences.

And you tend to get a bit of that when your trying your hand at something new ....

what make of dyno do you have? have you got a pic of it? ta

**husaberg** · 12th April 2012, 17:43

Originally Posted by jasonu

Now that is a brave statement.

Oh i forgot you were in the US so no free speech there i guess

I was meaning the the four strokes have lifted there game the capacity rules have certainly helped there as well.
They also create huge moving chicanes remember, plus are pretty evenly matched.(to each other)
The chassis have on the whole improved the tyres have moved on greatly as well.
Did you work out the freight cost BTW.
looks like i am at the moment out of the dog box.

PS even Dave agrees with me. So there. (how often does that happen?)

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

You only have to look at Wellington scene to see that the game has been lifted. I mean it started out low & I had the measure of everyone, but that was some time ago. Are we talking bikes or riders?
The bikes have got better (ok some 2 strokes aside) as stiffer frames, better suspension & brakes. Usable power & a reasonable amount, but largely tyres are streets ahead.
In wgtn; the front end of B grade would have done pretty well in A grade of a few years ago. In A grade qualifying Hamish posted a 41.9. not too long ago we thought 43 anything was the shizzle. I posted a 43.9 on my 50 last saturday. New Tyres help.