France and Ireland pass hi-viz law

[Kickaha]

and it'd save ACC $$ from al them feckin scooter riders. should also pass over ankle boot law too

So how about you tell us how many scoooter riders are claiming ACC for hand related injuries and what it costs us?

[Madness]

It's all a waste of energy. The way the economy is going in this country currently it won't be long before all of us have our regos on hold for lack of funds and resort to taking the fucking bus.

[pete376403]

believe you me I don't like hi-viz either but lets be correct here. person with hi-viz IS lot more visible than the ones in black. Especially at night. Not to mention brightly coloured helmets..

I've posted this before but...

Black biker jacket, with and without illumination. That jacket glows incredibly brightly when lit up by headlights.

[awa355]

I'm waiting for the day, the Govt decide to implement a ban on motorcycles on certain days. ( only with our safety in mind, of course)

'it's below freezing',

The winds are too strong,

The police have banned bikes from this road or that, because its considered too dangerous. .


I believe certain areas in the states have had this type of control in place for years.

[Voltaire]

When I was in Ireland 8 years ago bikes didn't even need an annual test....the pendulum has swung the other way there now.

[speights_bud]

So how about you tell us how many scoooter riders are claiming ACC for hand related injuries and what it costs us?

Couldn't do that if i tried, i bet they are lumped in with the 'motorcycle' statistics, And besides this is KB, I'm entitled to my biased Generalizations!

[rastuscat]

Irony. Muppets biggest-ever crash happened when he was wearing hi viz. It seems that the tree that hit him saw him coming and timed the fall perfectly. If he wasn't wearing hi viz the tree wouldn't have seen him, and he wouldn't have crashed.

[BMWST?]

OMG
this argument has been going on for years
Hi vis verses non hi vis verses black verses colours verses all the gear verses only some gear.

How about you all just accept the responsibility that you are riding something that others often just dont see
and adjust your riding to suit that,
No amount of safety gear is going to stop the twat who is riding like a faggot believing his Hi Viss is a flag that all will see.

Treat each and every journey as one that you need 100% concentration 100% of the time.
At all times be aware of what is going on around you, and make sure you act in such a way that you do get seen by other drivers.
thats not hard to do and can be done inside the limits of the law.

talk to other road users too...they need to concentrate on what they are doing.You can do everything you can do to avoid an "accident" with them but they can still get you,no matter what you do.

[Swoop]

The hi-viz retardedness was on "Deal or no Deal" tonight (5pm - Prime).
The knob-end from the audience was wearing a full vest and wore it throughout the programme.

He wasn't injured in any way, shape or form but luckily he was also provided with a yellow hard hat for part of the show.

Where are these morons born and how do we flush the gene pool of their disease?

[Subike]

talk to other road users too...they need to concentrate on what they are doing.You can do everything you can do to avoid an "accident" with them but they can still get you,no matter what you do.

Totally agree with you on this,
But other road users are such a diverse range of personalities etc, there is no way you ever could educate them all
Bikers on the other hand are normally ferocious individuals, and like being in the limelight.
They Might, just might listen more attentively.
As for that incident, where no matter what you do the cage nails you.
Being aware can reduce the injury damage if this happens,
Knowing that a vehicle is going to take you out, that few milliseconds of alertness on your part could make the difference.
The difference between life and death could be the difference between being alert or complacent .

[98tls]

Xactly,after 40 years on 2 wheels i find the hi vis thing if they cant see a headlight a hi vis is of little use,motorcyclists already know how dangerous it is what about educating the rest on the road,starting with the elderly for my money,no disrespect to them hell i am heading that way myself but fuck they cause some carnage.

[swbarnett]

Should Pass a law to make Gloves Compulsory, in a crash your hands are almost guaranteed to touch the road and it'd save ACC $$ from al them feckin scooter riders. should also pass over ankle boot law too

How about one banning bikes?


No, better to repeal all the "personal saftey laws" and get the government the fuck out of our lives.

[swbarnett]

believe you me I don't like hi-viz either but lets be correct here. person with hi-viz IS lot more visible than the ones in black.

Only if you're looking.

The problem, if there really is one, is that people don't look. Hell, if they can't see trains with bloody great search lights on the front how are they going to see us?

I ride ALL in black. I am seen more now than I ever have been. I have significantly fewer SMIDSYs (not that I got many anyway, and btw, I've never had one result in an accident).

When push comes to shove I have to side with Katman on this one - I don't care who sees me, I see them!

What I think is wrong is government forcing motorcyclist what to wear. There are other ways to educate motorists to get bikes more aware.

Its not like they are banning black cars because they are not as visible as yellow cars. I dont get why they are just being dicks to motorcyclists.

Exactly!

[speights_bud]

How about one banning bikes?


No, better to repeal all the "personal saftey laws" and get the government the fuck out of our lives.

Enforcing safety gear seems like a practical thing to do, a high vis isn't going to keep skin on & we already have a law on helmets, or do you not wear one of those because Fuck the gubberment they are interfering with my riding?

[swbarnett]

seems like a practical thing to do, a high vis isn't going to keep skin on & we already have a law on helmets, or do you not wear one of those because Fuck the gubberment they are interfering with my riding?

No, I do wear one. Becuase I firmly believe in the benifits thereof. As I do for my leather jacket, gloves and boots (and often pants). What I object to is having the government involved in any way in my choices about my personal safety. Where do you draw the line? The way we're going driving of any kind will be outlawed in favour of automated roads in the name of safety. This and other measure are going to take all pleasure from life and send the suicide rate through the roof. How safe is that?