ZX10R anti wheelie question

[ClutchITUP]

I have recently got that stirring feeling for a 2011 ZX10R. Can someone tell me a bit about the antiwheelie crap it has on it?

If I got one can I clutch up a high slow wheelie in 1st from say a red light to impress chicks? ie do a clutched up wheelie and keep it below 70km/h

I like clutching up slow wheelies its fun to me and a big part of MY sport bike riding. Will I be shit out of luck with the new electronic aids?

[White trash]

This oughta be fucken good.

[slofox]

[sil3nt]

[Crasherfromwayback]

Got any clips of you doing one of your signature wheelies?

[bogan]

I'm pretty familiar with Kawasaki's anti wheelie system. The most common type is KMOS, or Kawasaki Mass Overload System; pronounced kay-moss.

This is a passive system (and equipped to almost all of their bikes since the early 90s), and some might say not as good as the likes of BMW's electronic anti-wheelie control. However, the benefits of a passive system mean it is always in effect, and you do not have to worry about electricery taking control of the throttle at a bad time.

However, passive systems are a lot harder to disable than the electronic ones. For you to remove the effects of KMOS, you will have to modify a lot of the components, including the engine, frame, fairing, wheels, brakes, and other parts too numerous to mention. If you look up 'Shervin', he is a pioneer on the removal of the KMOS system, although I think he used a ZX10 the principals are similar. Or even kb's own Ducatilover has done extensive work in this field as well.

[Ronin]

"Yut ughhhh!"

[EJK]

Fresh Fish! Fresh Fish!

[ClutchITUP]

thanks bogan, so what your saying is that the anti wheelie on the gen 4 is no different to that on previous model zx10s ?
I thought the gen 4 had some new flash electronic anti wheelie built in, Jimmy? yes or no ?

[bogan]

thanks bogan, so what your saying is that the anti wheelie on the gen 4 is no different to that on previous model zx10s ?
I thought the gen 4 had some new flash electronic anti wheelie built in, Jimmy? yes or no ?

I'm not too sure on the details, but they added some new bits and updates to ABS etc, so it's likely these just enhance the KMOS effect. I wouldn't be surprised if the marketeers portray simple improvements as new systems.

[ClutchITUP]

I'm not too sure on the details, but they added some new bits and updates to ABS etc, so it's likely these just enhance the KMOS effect. I wouldn't be surprised if the marketeers portray simple improvements as new systems.

I hear ya Bogan cheers mate, right Im getting the idea through OTHER forums that Im worried about nothing and I can continue dreaming about getting a 2011 ZX10R and electronic aides wont infringe on MY fun, As you were wankers

[Crasherfromwayback]

, As you were wankers

No mirrors at your place?

[MD]

This oughta be fucken good.

Tut, tut. We all know this will end in tears.

The bigger question here is why would you need to use the clutch to wheelie a modern 1000cc (or 600 for that matter) in FIRST gear? Am I missing something? Have I slipped into an alternate universe where sports bike have 30hp? Oh bugger, it's the 1950s again. Must be a delayed Y2K event.

[White trash]

Yut ughhhh

Funniest fucken thing I've seen in a loooooong time.

"Oh nah, for donuts you need sprockets and shit...."

[ClutchITUP]

No mirrors at your place?

No actually not one. got any videos of your signature crashing? did they have video back then? I know they didnt have bikes with anti wheelie control/traction control/mapping switches and shit like that. I have never ridden a bike with that shit so I just want to understand what it does in the real world. I understand its all great for lap times but what do all these aides mean for the average road squid like me that just wants to tool around and be a larriken doing skids and wheelies (the slower the better less mess that way if something does go wrong)

Im still unclear can you clutch up a wheelie in 1st gear on a gen 4 ZX10R? any one ? I know you can in 2nd but 1st?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poQpIKues50
the black bike is a 2011 ZX10R