European developments that may knock on worldwide

[Muppet]

nope. has been talked about at length. Not that exceptional really given the 100 bho limits in france already.

Do you mean 100 bhp limits? And have they already passed that law in France??

[misterO]

France has had a 106bhp limit for several years. AFAIK it has done nothing to reduce accidents. Perhaps it's time for them to legislate the limit down to 80bhp, y'know- if it only saves one life blah, blah... Think of the children!

[GrayWolf]

I posted this thread a while ago... its the document Europe was considering introducing, looks like the French are going to 'lead' and the rest will likely follow suit.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...k-on-worldwide

[98tls]

I posted this thread a while ago... its the document Europe was considering introducing, looks like the French are going to 'lead' and the rest will likely follow suit.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...k-on-worldwide

Just had a read through that thread you posted mate,i noticed in particular the mentioning of Germany and tough modification laws,i spend some time on the German TL site which is huge and of the 3 major TL based forums on the internet the German guys take modifying to a whole higher level than most on the other 2,many of the members bikes are using single side swingarms off Triumphs etc etc etc,the laws dont seem that tough or just not enforced.

[The Pastor]

the question is WHY?

[Oblivion]

the question is WHY?

Because the nice people in the government are trying to save the people from their own stupidity with stupidity. And it doesn't seem to be working.

[Katman]

the question is WHY?

They probably see it as payback.

[Scuba_Steve]

It's only a matter of time until the dictators here push the same oppression. It won't be long until only shops can do mods, including even wheel/tyre swaps to something other then manufacture stock

[98tls]

If and when what do they do about stuff thats already been done?Theres plenty of much modified bikes out there getting around legally can they mess with them or just deal to new bikes...

[Ocean1]

It's not new.

Mate of mine used to make a very tidy living un-modifying cars in Sydnee for their annual WOF. And re-modifying them the next day.

If you don't like it tell your local polly. Use language any meddling fuckwit can understand.

[rastuscat]

Yup, those long forks have caused sooooo many crashes and deaths.

What a bunch of dicks...

Yeah, the longer the forks, the safer the bike, coz the front wheel arrives at an intersection several seconds before the rider, meaning the rider can take evasive action before he gets there.

[george formby]

HERE is Superbikes take on things from a few months ago.

A taster..



PROPOSED RULE
Anti-tampering measures
Of all the elements of the new proposals, this one – which, on the face of it, appears to ban engine tuning – is perhaps the most concerning. But, as with so many other elements of the new regulations, the fears are being overplayed

THE FEARS
The proposals say that bikes “shall be equipped with designated measures to prevent tampering of a vehicle’s powertrain” with the aim:
A) to prevent modifi cations that may prejudice safety, in particular, by increasing vehicle performance through tampering with the powertrain in order to increase the maximum torque and/or power and/or maximum designed vehicle speed as declared by the manufacturer of a vehicle upon type-approval, and/or
(B) to prevent damage to the environment. Sounds pretty bad, doesn’t it? But dig a little deeper and fears start to evaporate.

THE REALITY
There’s a key word in the text above that’s easily missed. It’s right at the end of section ‘A’ where it says “and/or”. The truth is that the first part – the scary bit about preventing modifi cations that increase power, torque or maximum speed, is aimed at mopeds and scooters, i.e. bikes that already have limits on their power and performance to make them learner-legal. It’s only for these restricted bikes that manufacturers have to declare maximum power and speed during type-approval to ensure they’re approved as restricted, learner-legal machines. It doesn’t mean that you’ll be prevented from modifying bigger bikes.

The second part, about damage to the environment, is again not dissimilar from current rules which state that you must stick to using EU-stamped road-legal exhausts. After taking the effort to make bike emissions lower, they’re understandably keen that you shouldn’t turn yours back into an environmental disaster as soon as it’s wheeled out of the showroom. The fact that tuning will not be prohibited is spelled out in a later section of the proposals, saying “After a modifi cation of the powertrain, a vehicle shall comply with the technical requirements of the initial vehicle category and subcategory, or, if applicable, the new vehicle category and subcategory.”

In other words, you can modify your bike as long as it stays legal – rather like the rules that already apply. And in a separate document which assesses the impact of the new regulations, the Commission even suggests that the rules will provide more opportunities for the aftermarket tuning industry, listing an economic benefi t the “Number of additional products for the large after-market industry that supplies equipment/services for the modification of vehicles.”

[puddytat]

heres how the germans see it. It will help if you understand German.....

[Tigadee]

It can be argued that long forks and ape hangers make a rider highly conspicuous and so serves the function of enhancing a rider's survival on the road, thus they should be made compulsory for all motorcycles...