Suzuki M50 vs Harley 883 Iron

[Madness]

... Why not have both.

We can't all ride Viragos, that would be ghey.

[ducatilover]

After much thought I cannot see why people "just want" a Harley, a bike doesn't make you cool, it's the tats and sluts.

I have a theory though, it's the same reason I love Ducatis. I've piloted a few Harleys, hated them, thought they could do better. I've ridden a few Dukes, they were also a bit poo, but I really want one. There's no sound logic.
Is it love mummy?

[scumdog]

fuck off why would you want slow motorbike?

Why not????

[scumdog]

All im saying is, a more power engine is better.

If you're a boy...

[ducatilover]

Why not????

Because racecar.

[waspnz]

After much thought I cannot see why people "just want" a Harley, a bike doesn't make you cool, it's the tats and sluts.

I have a theory though, it's the same reason I love Ducatis. I've piloted a few Harleys, hated them, thought they could do better. I've ridden a few Dukes, they were also a bit poo, but I really want one. There's no sound logic.
Is it love mummy?

For me its the look, the sound and the heritage. Same reason I would buy a particular american car. It has nothing to do with looking cool.

[ducatilover]

For me its the look, the sound and the heritage. Same reason I would buy a particular american car. It has nothing to do with looking cool.

A well reasoned reply on Kiwibiker? Oh dear me...

Possibly the same reason I love Alfas then?

[GrayWolf]

fuck off why would you want slow motorbike?

Do you really think i will take what you say seriously, when your first words are an expletive? Go and buy a CBR250RR and join the other 'brain out' brigade.

[GrayWolf]

All im saying is, a more power engine is better.

Well lets see. I own an 1100 with 145bhp, and about 80f t lbs of torque, max rpm 11500.... or a 1700 with 88bhp and 110ft lbs of torque max rpm 5500
One produces 'astronomical' power at 6000 rpm (150kph in top)...... One produces great power at 2250 rpm ( 90kph in top) Which one produces the more 'usable' power?
Guess which one I prefer?

[ducatilover]

Do you really think i will take what you say seriously, when your first words are an expletive? Go and buy a CBR250RR and join the other 'brain out' brigade.

I'm pretty sure he's owned a fair few of them and one rather trick one.

Well lets see. I own an 1100 with 145bhp, and about 80f t lbs of torque, max rpm 11500.... or a 1700 with 88bhp and 110ft lbs of torque max rpm 5500
One produces 'astronomical' power at 6000 rpm (150kph in top)...... One produces great power at 2250 rpm ( 90kph in top) Which one produces the more 'usable' power?
Guess which one I prefer?

You keep telling me how much better you MT is as an all round bike. So I propose this: Give me the 1100.
Or, instead of buying an MT you could have geared the ZZR down, that would be an interesting thing

[GrayWolf]

I'm pretty sure he's owned a fair few of them and one rather trick one.

Yeh and his brain is still stuck in 250 mentality.

You keep telling me how much better you MT is as an all round bike. So I propose this: Give me the 1100.
Or, instead of buying an MT you could have geared the ZZR down, that would be an interesting thing

Well here's MY propsal... Sell your mother/wife/sister/dog, sell your bikes and BUY the 1100 from me at a 'snip' price..... We can discuss terms
Yes I keep saying it, becauase the MT IS a better all rounder for general riding. As a destroyer of Continents? The ZZR is par excellence.
Now why would I gear down the ZZR? to make it as 'good' as the old FJ or the MT at 90kph roll on's.. the bloody thing would need a 'fat bastard' ... (oooops thats me), to keep the farking front end down.... No thanks!!

[ducatilover]

Well here's MY propsal... Sell your mother/wife/sister/dog, sell your bikes and BUY the 1100 from me at a 'snip' price..... We can discuss terms

I don't think there's anything I'd sell my ZZR for

Yes I keep saying it, becauase the MT IS a better all rounder for general riding. As a destroyer of Continents? The ZZR is par excellence.

I can't take your word for it because I really, really want to ride an MT

Now why would I gear down the ZZR? to make it as 'good' as the old FJ or the MT at 90kph roll on's.. the bloody thing would need a 'fat bastard' ... (oooops thats me), to keep the farking front end down.... No thanks!!

Sounds like I'd enjoy it with short gearing...


On a slightly serious note, I'm not surprised you find the MT a better all round bike. I wish I didn't need to wait for 7000rpm to get proper mental on mine. Warp drive in 6th at 90 must be brilliant

[GrayWolf]

I don't think there's anything I'd sell my ZZR for

I can't take your word for it because I really, really want to ride an MT

Sounds like I'd enjoy it with short gearing...


On a slightly serious note, I'm not surprised you find the MT a better all round bike. I wish I didn't need to wait for 7000rpm to get proper mental on mine. Warp drive in 6th at 90 must be brilliant

6th? Noooo the MT's a 'real man's' bike... only needs 5 gears... if you want to have a real hoot for gearing ride a VN1500c (the one with the silly chrome ait filter pods just under the headstoc) they only have 4 gears.... Bloody great hoot!! Really took me back to my youth when i had that.

[888]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyKBFCd_u4

don't know if I loaded this video on correctly, but is shore is funny....

[The Lone Rider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyKBFCd_u4

don't know if I loaded this video on correctly, but is shore is funny....

Back when that first aired in the USA, I showed a few guys.

We found it funny as piss, and for awhile any time we sat at a red light, the club would collectively go brrbrmbrmbrmbrbmrmbrm until the light changed or we started laughing.

Maybe you had to be there to see the funny side of it.