Finally, the announcement of the Learner Approved Motorcycle Scheme (LAMS)

[GrayWolf]

The XJ650 and XJ6 are on the list but my XJ400 isn't? Yet I managed to get an exemption to current learner's 250 limit from NZTA...

Maybe it's just not officially on the LAMS list yet. I'll have to enquire about that.

that again makes no sense... I had an old YICS XJ650, and they are certainly quicker than the sprot 250's apart from the KR1 etc on top end, (maybe).

[ducatilover]

the XJS 400s are fairly heavy/not too powerful. IIRC something like 195kg and 45ish HP, there abouts. Certainly is going to have a lower power/weight ratio then something like a 250 CBRR.

53hp/178kg for the XJ400S Diversion

[ducatilover]

that again makes no sense... I had an old YICS XJ650, and they are certainly quicker than the sprot 250's apart from the KR1 etc on top end, (maybe).

Apparently they only pulled 120mph or so, which the 2T 250s will do.

[Tricia1000]

The xj6 is on the list, but the fzs600 ( virtually the same bike isn't.

Interesting, the list isn't very clear at all, but I would expect the older XJ650/XJ6 are quite heavy/low on power, where if I recall, your XJ400 would be just over the limit?
The 650 was a heavy sucker.



The FXR150 is allowed

[Mongolian]

Damn the timing of this law.
Was planning on selling my rgv next year but will have to sell it before the law changes and it will be virtually impossible to sell.

Good law i think though, will help out the larger (read as fat buggers like me) people get a decent bike rather than some little 250 that has a huge premium on it.

On a side note, any learners wanting to buy a freshly rebuilt rgv in the next few months haha.

[NinjaNanna]

seeing as it's only manufacturers that can get other models added to the list (without waiting for LTNZ to get off their arse) perhaps KB could set up a wiki for each manufacturer and quickly compile a list of all the legal bikes and then approx each manufacturer asking them to submit on our behalf.

[Fast Eddie]

Damn the timing of this law.
Was planning on selling my rgv next year but will have to sell it before the law changes and it will be virtually impossible to sell.

On a side note, any learners wanting to buy a freshly rebuilt thrashed rgv in the next few months haha.

lol - I still think 2ts will be ok.. I bought my 2t off a full licensed rider and I myself am a long time full licensed rider - learners generally don't go for them I recon.. for noobs there are too many unknowns about rebuilds and maintenance and reliability of a 2 stroke, and most don't even know what 2 or 4 stroke is. those vtr250s, gn250s, gt250rs etc seem very popular these days for learners. I never see any 2 strokes floating around or they are pretty rare.

just keep it, 2 strokes rule and make a mint 2nd bike/toy for proper thrashes, plus more of an enthusiasts bike.. There will still be people out there that want nice examples of the dying out 2ts.. another bonus is that no one makes 2t little sports bikes/race reps anymore so logically u will assume that value should increase as more of them blow up or rust away and only a few enthusiasts are left keeping theirs going

[Glowerss]

The xj6 is on the list, but the fzs600 ( virtually the same bike isn't.

It's the same story with mine and tiggadees XJS400s. The XJR400 is on the list, and its just the naked version of the XJS. I'll be very sad if the XJS doesn't make it on the list.

[Ender EnZed]

The xj6 is on the list, but the fzs600 ( virtually the same bike isn't.

I thought the FZS was quite a bit quicker. It's 10kg lighter and it has an extra 20hp.

[Paul in NZ]

Bloody stupid list and an even stupider method to get bikes added.

Still - there must be some cheapish RGV's coming up eh? Rather fancy something like that....

[iYRe]

For those who are interested:

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett...torcycles.html

[bogan]

Shit, somebody better tell ACC, they left some super dangerous over 600cc bikes on the learner list!

[FJRider]

A bit slow off the mark ...

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...approved-bikes

[bogan]

A bit slow off the mark ...

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...approved-bikes

Having NZ's list in the first post is worth an extra thread though I reckon.

[scott411]

Shit, somebody better tell ACC, they left some super dangerous over 600cc bikes on the learner list!

the issue is in australia some of these bikes have been restricted to meet the requiremnet, so the factory restricted ones (of which none have been imported into NZ) are legal, but the unrestricted ones are not,

how the consumer, or Cop that pulls you up is ment to know the difference I do not know,

(if you have a look at the AUssie distributor websites they list LAMS approved and full horsepower models for some 600-650cc models)