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    Moto 2 faster than GP500's

    Just watched the Moto 2 race and was surpised to hear that the 600's quali times at Spain are faster than the fastest ever lap at Catalunya on 500GP bikes, that record held by Rossi.
    Goes to show how fast these little bikes are now going, and they're a few HP down on WSS bikes too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    And a year or two on a street legal version?
    Honda want in on Aprilia's ART action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony.OK View Post
    Just watched the Moto 2 race and was surpised to hear that the 600's quali times at Spain are faster than the fastest ever lap at Catalunya on 500GP bikes, that record held by Rossi.
    Goes to show how fast these little bikes are now going, and they're a few HP down on WSS bikes too.
    Anyone here need to retract their comments about slow Moto2 bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    I think the only instance of that rule being enforced was Spies wasn't it?
    He was certainly the main one if not the only one, in some quarters it's referred to as the "Spies rule".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Anyone here need to retract their comments about slow Moto2 bikes?
    Not I. 250's also went as fast sometimes Oscar. Hardly suprising that a bike 2 1/2 times bigger would eventually get there. But they're still not even as fast as a 600ss bikes are they?

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    Around silverstone Moto2 and WSS 1000 are practically even. Moto 2 being slightly quicker - less than a second a lap.
    The WSS 600s are about 5 seconds off.

    The difference between MotoGP and WSBK is around 2 seconds.

    Data is taken from 2011 Silverstone Qualifying. Obviously conditions would be totally different and I would say the tyres would play a big part as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sil3nt View Post
    Around silverstone Moto2 and WSS 1000 are practically even. Moto 2 being slightly quicker - less than a second a lap.
    The WSS 600s are about 5 seconds off.

    The difference between MotoGP and WSBK is around 2 seconds.

    Data is taken from 2011 Silverstone Qualifying. Obviously conditions would be totally different and I would say the tyres would play a big part as well.
    That's impressive then! I must say they've caught up quickert than I thought they might. Still sound like plop though.

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    Assen 2010 WSS QP — Kenan Sofuoglu, 1:37.908
    Assen 2010 Moto2 QP — Andrea Iannone, 1:39.092
    Assen 2011 WSS QP — Luca Scassa, 1:38.008
    Assen 2011 Moto2 QP — Stefan Bradl, 1:39.305
    Assen 2012 WSS QP — Sam Lowes, 1:38.9
    Assen 2012 Moto2 QP — ... ?

    Doesn't take into account weather conditions, time of year, tyres, etc...

    Ah, beaten to it by sil3nt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DidJit View Post
    Assen 2010 WSS QP — Kenan Sofuoglu, 1:37.908
    Assen 2010 Moto2 QP — Andrea Iannone, 1:39.092
    Assen 2011 WSS QP — Luca Scassa, 1:38.008
    Assen 2011 Moto2 QP — Stefan Bradl, 1:39.305
    Assen 2012 WSS QP — Sam Lowes, 1:38.9
    Assen 2012 Moto2 QP — ... ?

    Doesn't take into account weather conditions, time of year, tyres, etc...

    Ah, beaten to it by sil3nt...
    No. sil3nt seems to be saying the exact opposite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    No. sil3nt seems to be saying the exact opposite?
    Those 2 have got me confused too.

    At Silverstone the more powerful Super Sports should be ahead, but at Assen the more agile Moto2 bikes should be faster. In theory anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Those 2 have got me confused too.

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    I just meant I got beaten in showing a comparison between the two classes. (I should explain myself more clearly, I know.)
    Here is a comparison of Silverstone's times.

    Silverstone 2010 Moto2 QP — Claudio Corti, 2:09.624
    Silverstone 2010 WSS QP — Eugene Laverty, 2:09.426
    Silverstone 2011 Moto2 QP — Marc Marquez, 2:08.101
    Silverstone 2011 WSS QP — David Salom, 2:08.571
    Silverstone 2012 Moto2 QP — Pol Espargaro, 2:08.011
    Silverstone 2012 WSS QP — ... ?

    Again, weather conditions, time of year, etc etc. not taken into account.

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    So, on average, what is the crank HP the WSS600's putting out?
    I believe (I might be wrong) the Moto2's are 145hp.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nudemetalz View Post
    So, on average, what is the crank HP the WSS600's putting out?
    I believe (I might be wrong) the Moto2's are 145hp.
    From here: http://www.visordown.com/features/fi...kes/20811.html
    Moto2 is 140 and WSS600 is 145.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sil3nt View Post
    From here: http://www.visordown.com/features/fi...kes/20811.html
    Moto2 is 140 and WSS600 is 145.
    Cheers for that


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