Asset sale protests!

[Brian d marge]

I have always said NZ is a "socialist country" (nurtured by the state school system) today's asset sales protests simply demonstrate the point!

The objective should be less "monopoly" government interference and increased creation of commercial opportunities for business growth!

Government assets are dependant on taxpayer support (Air NZ) and higher and higher consumer pricing! (electricity)

By floating public shares in the asset, only those who want to invest need invest, freeing up taxpayer money for other projects!

"Real" competition rather than in house SOE "pretend monopoly competition" high price setting "should" put the brakes on unsupported price rises!

I was disgusted with the protests today, not so much about the stated reason but more by the "proof" that New Zealanders are so collectively stupid!

Even more disturbing is the part the media played in trying to maximise the coverage of the stupidity!
Snip snip sip ( not yet !)

Sorry I couldnt find the original


IF the investors were New Zealanders and IF there was true competition then yes , but unfortuantly I doubt it will happen , ( give me an example where it has )
A few monied people , or a outside investor with money , will set themselves up ( aka Toll , brierly investments etc )

and we will take a reaming

But I do agree ( and I think this is used against us ) that most people arent informed enough, and the diversity of protestors does more harm than good

one voice one goal

Stephen

[SPman]

BoristheBiter[/B]]

One company I work for makes pipes. It is cheaper to import from China....how that works I will never know.

very poor health care , working conditions and environmental safety etc etc....it will change as china becomes more afluent ...then another pesant will take his place

Easy fix , just lower your costs to that of, or below China

Stephen

China becomes affluent - costs go up - places like NZ and the USA - costs go down because everyone is totally fecked - we become the new peasant/cheap labour cultures....and the cycle goes on.
Meantime - those in "authority" continue to make shitloads, through continued corruption and exploitation!

More and more, despite wondering 40 yrs ago what he was on about and thinking wrong wrong wrong, I tend to subscribe to Mao's saying "Power comes from the barrel of a gun"!
It seems to be the only way todeal with these cocksuckers!
How about actually imprisonning, for substantial sentences, all these banker arseholes!
Perhaps that would be a start....
Followed by investment banker arseholes............

[Brian d marge]

China becomes affluent - costs go up - places like NZ and the USA - costs go down because everyone is totally fecked - we become the new peasant/cheap labour cultures....and the cycle goes on.
Meantime - those in "authority" continue to make shitloads, through continued corruption and exploitation!

More and more, despite wondering 40 yrs ago what he was on about and thinking wrong wrong wrong, I tend to subscribe to Mao's saying "Power comes from the barrel of a gun"!
It seems to be the only way todeal with these cocksuckers!
How about actually imprisonning, for substantial sentences, all these banker arseholes!
Perhaps that would be a start....
Followed by investment banker arseholes............

reminds me of one of my legendary posts ....

It might actually come to that ,......

Stephen

[scumdog]

China becomes affluent - costs go up - places like NZ and the USA - costs go down because everyone is totally fecked - we become the new peasant/cheap labour cultures...
...........

True, I've posted that (or to that effect) on KB years ago.

China has cheap labour we can't compete with - so ourstandard of living will slip

China will notice its increasing affluence and it's workers will want more pay - so its standard of living will rise.

Hypothetically we should end up equal some time in the future - but we won't.

[BoristheBiter]

very poor health care , working conditions and environmental safety etc etc....it will change as china becomes more afluent ...then another pesant will take his place

Easy fix , just lower your costs to that of, or below China


Stephen

To lower my costs I would either have to make a substandard product or lay off staff or pay them less.
Now what do you think would be said if I did any of the above?

[Robert Taylor]

They didn't drop the UK into a recession, so possibly. Although I would attribute their success to not letting the banks have free reign with the economy over skilled management.



I used to do a great impression of John le grey. Not so good at Maggie though... my voice wasn't deep enough as unlike Madge, my balls hadn't dropped by then .

Rubbish, the recession was an inevitable aftermath of having to reign in out of control spending. Remember the winter of discontent, uncollected rubbish, the unions holding the country to ransom,3 day weeks and Callaghan having to go cap in hand to the IMF to have enough money to keep the country running?

Maggies saddest failure was not getting the poll tax through

[oldrider]

China becomes affluent - costs go up - places like NZ and the USA - costs go down because everyone is totally fecked - we become the new peasant/cheap labour cultures....and the cycle goes on.
Meantime - those in "authority" continue to make shitloads, through continued corruption and exploitation!

More and more, despite wondering 40 yrs ago what he was on about and thinking wrong wrong wrong, I tend to subscribe to Mao's saying "Power comes from the barrel of a gun"!
It seems to be the only way to deal with these cocksuckers!
How about actually imprisoning, for substantial sentences, all these banker arseholes!
Perhaps that would be a start....
Followed by investment banker arseholes............

Like "home detention" with a "Velcro fastened ankle bracelet"! .... Like they do now! (Crime "does" ... pay, "definitely" in New Zealand!)

[Brian d marge]

To lower my costs I would either have to make a substandard product or lay off staff or pay them less.
Now what do you think would be said if I did any of the above?

Welcome to the New right , hope you enjoy your stay

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

It must be nice and cosy in that place , 'cause once they are in , they sure as hell dont want to leave


Snip;
''The issue has never been about ownership. The issue has always been about Maori rights and interests.''

The claim by the Maori Council has been described by Key as ''opportunistic'' and has created anger within wider Maoridom.
Last week Turia refused to give an assurance the Maori Party would not walk away from its support arrangement with National after it was called on to do so by Opposition parties and the Maori Council.


Stephen

[Brian d marge]

Rubbish, the recession was an inevitable aftermath of having to reign in out of control spending. Remember the winter of discontent, uncollected rubbish, the unions holding the country to ransom,3 day weeks and Callaghan having to go cap in hand to the IMF to have enough money to keep the country running?

Maggies saddest failure was not getting the poll tax through

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monetarism

There were other factors as well , such as a whole lot of people suddenly entering the work place , oil , credit ,

Supply and demand , if you take money out of the system , inflation drops ( I think I’ve got that right )

if it drops below what you buy it for ,or you can buy more ,,,,,,, you can start loaning it out as credit , ( the credit boom of the 1980s )

New zealand used the unemployed as a (one off ) mechanism(s) to control inflation , that was below the belt ,,,,,,,,


the inefficient factories were a result of WW2 , Japan and Germany both received money to retool and restructure , Britain had to borrow ,,,twice . ( and thats rich , the Americans borrowed from the french for their war of independence , for a couple of ships , then defaulted on the loan...but WE stopped national socialists and WE had to pay it back...fkers)

If anything its our green for shiny stuff that’s causing a hell of a lot of the problems


Stephen


Ps Theres ya problem : http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/we...in-world-study

[oneofsix]

the inefficient factories were a result of WW2 , Japan and Germany both received money to retool and restructure , Britain had to borrow ,,,twice . ( and thats rich , the Americans borrowed from the french for their war of independence , for a couple of ships , then defaulted on the loan...but WE stopped national socialists and WE had to pay it back...fkers)


Stephen

You missed an irony. The American uprising was in support of a despot that wanted to rule Europe and preferred fiddling with his own breast rather than Josephine's whereas the Brits fought to prevent a despot that wanted to rule Europe.

[oneofsix]

Ps Theres ya problem : http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/we...in-world-study

Yeah but no. The lazy in the headline is we don't get enough time to get physical. Other studies have said this is because we spend too long at work arriving home mentally exhausted. Or in short exploited.

[Brian d marge]

Yeah but no. The lazy in the headline is we don't get enough time to get physical. Other studies have said this is because we spend too long at work arriving home mentally exhausted. Or in short exploited.

Exploited is a word I would use to

The bbc did a work life / money balance thing and kiwis did some long hours

but all is not lost


Kiwis missing out on well-paid work

according to stuff , after a few months training you to could be 70 k

So why cant they find workers??? me wonders

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

You missed an irony. The American uprising was in support of a despot that wanted to rule Europe and preferred fiddling with his own breast rather than Josephine's whereas the Brits fought to prevent a despot that wanted to rule Europe.

Irony is a womans job, You sure it was boney and not Louis who lent the yanks money? either way it doesnt matter , they skipped the bill

but when it came to saving the free world , we should have used "ghostbusters " , damn sight cheaper

Stephen

And on that note, Jobs for the boys,,, I seem to remember this fella , and not in a good way either .....

Rod Carr joins RBNZ board

[Robert Taylor]

Yeah but no. The lazy in the headline is we don't get enough time to get physical. Other studies have said this is because we spend too long at work arriving home mentally exhausted. Or in short exploited.

Heck Im exploiting myself then.............. and my staff went home long ago