Policing with Passion

**wharekura** · 24th July 2012, 10:11

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7334...turns-to-chaos

"They [police] were aggro, man, caning little kids of 14, beating them with bats. They got the dogs out. My mate's missus got shot with rubber bullets. My mate got wasted with a baton."

I had my student years when I knew everything and joined a protest regarding CHOGM - then the police in riot gear showed up, did I hang around? no damn way. For these brats that want to cause a public disturbance, I thought they would rather go home than confront batons and dogs - obviously its cooler to confront the law. Idiots.

**Asher** · 24th July 2012, 10:48

It seems the police have been taught the complete opposite when dealing with breaking up parties.
I have been been at parties when the cops storm inside pushing and hitting everyone they can reach, not caring if they are sober/drunk, male/female or cooperating or not. Sure being heavy handed may be needed in some situations but it shouldnt be the first tactic used, it just breeds discontent and typically angers everyone involved, and a group of angry drunk youths should be the last thing the police want.

**Akzle** · 24th July 2012, 11:23

standing up for your rights against anyone, be they the blue-vest gang or the black-leather-vest gang is admirable. where the fuck would america/ black people the world over be if the LA riots hadn't happened. backing down just cos they sick you with dogs and firehoses, doesn't cut it. the people who back down are called PUSSIES.

or you could be like any of the hundreds of monks/ people who self immoliate (thomas ball, falun dafa et al) in public to protest.. you'd prefer that eh, asides from a mop and bucket you can just ignore them...

wharekaka more like.

**BoristheBiter** · 24th July 2012, 11:26

Originally Posted by Akzle

standing up for your rights against anyone, be they the blue-vest gang or the black-leather-vest gang is admirable. where the fuck would america/ black people the world over be if the LA riots hadn't happened. backing down just cos they sick you with dogs and firehoses, doesn't cut it. the people who back down are called PUSSIES.

or you could be like any of the hundreds of monks/ people who self immoliate (thomas ball, falun dafa et al) in public to protest.. you'd prefer that eh, asides from a mop and bucket you can just ignore them...

wharekaka more like.

What the fuck would you know about standing up for your rights?
Snot nosed little shits today all need a good hiding.

**Akzle** · 24th July 2012, 11:32

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

What the fuck would you know about standing up for your rights?
Snot nosed little shits today all need a good hiding.

uhh. i do it. all the damn time.

actually just read the article and it wasn't what i thought >< :doh

**HenryDorsetCase** · 24th July 2012, 11:42

our grandads went to war so you can give the cops lip and whine about your "rights"

sure, that shounds fair.

**Gremlin** · 24th July 2012, 11:44

I like how the mother advises against parties, open invites etc. Wow, first time I've ever heard such sensible advice!

Wait... where the fuck has she been? Under a rock?

**BoristheBiter** · 24th July 2012, 11:47

Originally Posted by Akzle

uhh. i do it. all the damn time.

actually just read the article and it wasn't what i thought >< :doh

I didn't think you had.
I liked the rubber bullets comment, just proves you can't rely on witnesses.

**Virago** · 24th July 2012, 11:52

Originally Posted by Stuff

...Twins Rhythm and Heaven-Leigh Hartman...

After reading the names, it all fell into place...

Originally Posted by wharekura

..."They [police] were aggro, man, caning little kids of 14, beating them with bats. They got the dogs out. My mate's missus got shot with rubber bullets. My mate got wasted with a baton."...

Canes, bats, rubber bullets?

**Virago** · 24th July 2012, 11:54

Originally Posted by Akzle

standing up for your rights against anyone, blah blah...

There's always one...

**oneofsix** · 24th July 2012, 11:58

Originally Posted by Virago

After reading the names, it all fell into place...

Canes, bats, rubber bullets?

Did hear the rumour that the police were carrying shotguns, rubber bullets sound more believable or bean bags as was also suggested. The truth is dead, long life conjecture and rumour.

**Phantom Limb** · 24th July 2012, 12:12

Kids these days don't understand that the Police ARE THE LAW.
I don't fuck about with cops, they are not the embodyment of opression as all these hippies in the occupy movement will have you believe.

We are a democracy, if you hate the cops that much, then lobby the Govt. ! They have to listen if your voice is loud enough (eg: you have a great deal of support). If they don't listen to you then perhaps it's because your views are not shared by the majority of the NZ public, in which case you should shutup and go home. In this case (drunk teens thrashing it up in a quiet neighborhood) I doubt you'll find much public support for the drunk munters blocking traffic and damaging cars.

I'm all for 'standing up for one's rights', however doing so by resisting the police is a completely retarded method for doing so. Organising a petition, contacting local govt. reps and gaining public support for your cause in a logical and peaceful manner should be the first course of action.

**GTRMAN** · 24th July 2012, 13:26

Originally Posted by oneofsix

Did hear the rumour that the police were carrying shotguns, rubber bullets sound more believable or bean bags as was also suggested. The truth is dead, long life conjecture and rumour.

The Truth died on the alter of tabloid journalism......

**Edbear** · 24th July 2012, 13:57

Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

Kids these days don't understand that the Police ARE THE LAW.
I don't fuck about with cops, they are not the embodyment of opression as all these hippies in the occupy movement will have you believe.

We are a democracy, if you hate the cops that much, then lobby the Govt. ! They have to listen if your voice is loud enough (eg: you have a great deal of support). If they don't listen to you then perhaps it's because your views are not shared by the majority of the NZ public, in which case you should shutup and go home. In this case (drunk teens thrashing it up in a quiet neighborhood) I doubt you'll find much public support for the drunk munters blocking traffic and damaging cars.

I'm all for 'standing up for one's rights', however doing so by resisting the police is a completely retarded method for doing so. Organising a petition, contacting local govt. reps and gaining public support for your cause in a logical and peaceful manner should be the first course of action.

Hang on, logic and reason? Peaceful?

Originally Posted by GTRMAN

The Truth died on the alter of tabloid journalism......

It has always been the sacrificial lamb on the alter of worship to ratings and money, never let the facts get in the way of a good sensationalistic headline.

**Akzle** · 24th July 2012, 18:46

Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

Kids these days don't understand that the Police ARE THE LAW.
I don't fuck about with cops, they are not the embodyment of opression as all these hippies in the occupy movement will have you believe.

We are a democracy, if you hate the cops that much, then lobby the Govt. ! They have to listen if your voice is loud enough (eg: you have a great deal of support). If they don't listen to you then perhaps it's because your views are not shared by the majority of the NZ public, in which case you should shutup and go home. In this case (drunk teens thrashing it up in a quiet neighborhood) I doubt you'll find much public support for the drunk munters blocking traffic and damaging cars.

I'm all for 'standing up for one's rights', however doing so by resisting the police is a completely retarded method for doing so. Organising a petition, contacting local govt. reps and gaining public support for your cause in a logical and peaceful manner should be the first course of action.

democracy: two wolves and a lamb deciding on what's for lunch.

also, what about when 86% of the people oppose a piece of legislation and they pass it anyway? good democracy eh? you're deluded if you think the government exists for your benefit. the police are merely front line policy enforcement of said government.

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

our grandads went to war so you can give the cops lip and whine about your "rights"

sure, that shounds fair.

my various grandpappys and uncles went to various wars for various reasons.
i don't think they had anything to do with a fascist police state.?