Made in China

**Katman** · 5th August 2012, 22:24

Originally Posted by Flip

You sound a lot like one of those jap crap folk from the 60's and 70's.

The chineese build some very high quality goods. Who built the PC you are using.

The businesses who sell your sub standard goods like the Warehouse and Bunnings are owned mostly by Auzy and Kiwis.

You should probably read the whole thread.

**mashman** · 5th August 2012, 22:24

Originally Posted by Katman

The Chinese, on the other hand, seem intent on basing their position in the international market on 'cheap' rather than 'quality'.

That is probably a sustainable business model. They put the opposition out of business and the expertise is lost. Couple that with the price of materials from our high wage, in comparison with China, and they've got the market cornered. Tis the way of the future and it has been coming for a loooooong time. Gotta admit though, I didn't expect to see it in my lifetime.

**Howie** · 5th August 2012, 22:24

Originally Posted by mashman

Is they? Not doubting ya like, as I'm sure the media were beating up China in regards to braking components and software issues relatively recently. Maybees some of the components are Chinese?

Hmmm Ok. the Matangi units on the Wellington suburban lines are korean. The DL Locomotives are chinese, and the new wagons are chinese.

Both the Matangi's and DL's have had a range of "teething issues", and the Wagons have also had some issues.

**mashman** · 5th August 2012, 22:30

Originally Posted by Howie

Hmmm Ok. the Matangi units on the Wellington suburban lines are korean. The DL Locomotives are chinese, and the new wagons are chinese.

Both the Matangi's and DL's have had a range of "teething issues", and the Wagons have also had some issues.

I think the funniest was them not wanting to work because of frost.

**TINA RAY** · 5th August 2012, 22:38

Originally Posted by Katman

And it's a known fact that the motorcycle chain coming out of China is among the shitiest that's available.

You'd better warn those two people who have just pm'd me to buy some.

**Katman** · 5th August 2012, 22:38

Originally Posted by TINA RAY

You'd better warn those two people who have just pm'd me to buy some.

Meh, they'll find out soon enough.

**ducatilover** · 5th August 2012, 22:47

Originally Posted by Katman

They'll find out soon enough.

If they're really that cheap I may buy one and run it on the GN, if it snaps I have a spare engine, hopefully it won't take my leg off.

I had a reasonably pricey 0-ring chain snap a link on the 600 after 2000km, lubed every tank of gas (3-400km) correctly tensioned. That was unfortunate.

**JimO** · 5th August 2012, 22:48

you get what you pay for, doesnt matter what you buy

**Katman** · 5th August 2012, 22:51

Originally Posted by ducatilover

If they're really that cheap I may buy one and run it on the GN, if it snaps I have a spare engine, hopefully it won't take my leg off.

I've seen plenty of examples of the cheap Chinese chains flogging out in no time even on 250 singles.

Meh, if it takes your leg off you've got another one.

**PrincessBandit** · 5th August 2012, 22:54

Caveat emptor and all that. I guess it all depends on what I'm buying - if it's knock-off OPI nail polish it's hardly a high risk purchase; if it's safety equipment or anything to do with my ride then I'd stick with trusted suppliers, even if it cost more.
If cheap is the bottom line for people then ultimately it may well cost them more in the long run. If they're lucky all will be well. If they're lucky.
I watched the programme this evening and it's simply reinforced my caution over buying anything of (a) large expense and/or (b) potentially high risk use e.g. the "NZ standard quality" ladders they showed on tv, online. Purchasing from trusted local sources e.g. your motorcycle shop or Mitre10 etc at least means you should have some comeback if the product turns out to be shit. Getting any backup or customer service from online purchasing from "Mr. Cheapo" is less likely to result in customer satisfaction.

One can only conclude from the posts of one particular member above means she will be very willing to stand by her products and give complete customer service in the event of product failure. Hear hear! for her.

**ducatilover** · 5th August 2012, 22:56

Originally Posted by Katman

I've seen plenty of examples of the cheap Chinese chains flogging out in no time even on 250 singles.

Meh, if it takes your leg off you've got another one.

If my leg gets taken off, you are more than welcome to laugh at it and make stump jokes

**Katman** · 5th August 2012, 23:01

Originally Posted by ducatilover

If my leg gets taken off, you are more than welcome to laugh at it and make stump jokes

You're on.

(You know me).

**blue rider** · 5th August 2012, 23:01

Originally Posted by Katman

Did nobody see the Close Up programme?

A whole batch of Chinese made aluminium ladders destined for Sweden, which were rejected by Sweden because they were made with wafer thin metal and clearly didn't carry the load that the Chinese claimed they would, ended up being imported into New Zealand.

Have we become so focused on 'cheap' that 'quality' doesn't even enter the equation these days?

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