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    as i was saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    If the fucking cop is parked up ahead of you ... lights fashing ... as they like to do ... and signal ALL of you to stop. Anyone that tries to continue ... will be the number one target, adding failing to stop to the list of charges.

    Then it's licences please people ...
    you really sure about what youre saying cause I know different

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    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    you really sure about what youre saying cause I know different
    Down here in the wide open motorway free part of the southern paradise I live in ... in an effort to conserve fuel ... and their sanity ... most officers DO park up and wait (on slow days) for their "clients" to appear. Often there is no turn-off points so as to escape their attention.
    Should the speeders turn around ... the cop in the previous town will cater to their request for paperwork.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Down here in the wide open motorway free part of the southern paradise I live in ... in an effort to conserve fuel and their sanity ... most officers DO park up and wait for their "clients" to appear. Often there is no turn-off points to escape their attention. Should they turn around ... the cop in the previous tow will cater to their request for paperwork.


    They may do things differently in dorkland ... lucky you.
    never pays to assume too much fella. Only been in Auckland for 6 months, I was living in Nelson and was on my way to Greymouth..... and dont worry I have travelled extensively all over NZ on a bike, but mostly in the South.....I have plenty of experience in the "Southern Paradise"

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    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    never pays to assume too much fella. Only been in Auckland for 6 months, I was living in Nelson and was on my way to Greymouth..... and dont worry I have travelled extensively all over NZ on a bike, but mostly in the South.....I have plenty of experience in the "Southern Paradise"
    I've been part of at least three groups in which ALL of us were stopped and details checked. On two of those occasions ... the notice of infringement was issued. Exceeding the speed limit ($35 I think) but as we were going a tad faster than that we hadn't the inclination to argue.

    One also warned us of three other points an officer was waiting .... (yeah right we thought) and they were ... and we waved as we rode by. On the speed limit.

    Just because you have not encountered it ... doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

    As I said ... lucky you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I've been part of at least three groups in which ALL of us were stopped and details checked. On two of those occasions ... the notice of infringement was issued. Exceeding the speed limit ($35 I think) but as we were going a tad faster than that we hadn't the inclination to argue.

    One also warned us of three other points an officer was waiting .... (yeah right we thought) and they were ... and we waved as we rode by. On the speed limit.

    Just because you have not encountered it ... doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

    As I said ... lucky you.
    annnnddd....just because it happened to you, doesnt mean it always happens, I have had three occassions (coincidence? that were exactly the opposite, that I will not go into for fear of incriminating myself).

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    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    annnnddd....just because it happened to you, doesnt mean it always happens, I have had three occassions (coincidence? that were exactly the opposite, that I will not go into for fear of incriminating myself).
    People often speed and not get tickets ... and no certainty they ever will. The likelyhood they will be ... increases each passing year.

    However ... the question in the original post in this thread was ... CAN THEY ... ??? The answer is most definitly yes ... in some circumstances it would be difficult for them ... granted. (Location ... location)

    However ... in some circumstances they can and will. If that is their option ... their discretion is applied to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    As I said ... lucky you ...
    you make your own luck....anyway, back to the OP.........in terms of the radar gettin them, there are plenty of myths out there, my understanding is that it is not as specific or accurate as laser, there isnt much beating laser but to nail individuals in a group would be pretty hard. My experience would say that the cop will generally see a bird in the hand as better than a bunch in a bush and it is pretty hard to pull over a group if they dont want to be caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    you make your own luck....anyway, back to the OP.........in terms of the radar gettin them.
    If three or more bikes travelling in a group, attract the attention of the law enforcers by the speed shown on the police radar .... I would say police reaction/intention would be to stop them for a chat. (not usually about old times sadly) If the radar showed they were all travelling at the same (or near) speed ... which was over the posted limit ... stopping them all may be an option.

    It is not necessery to have a locked on speed for each rider to get a ticket. (the word of the officer in court is enough ... eh)

    The odds of a speeding group being stopped as a group is low ... some officers can't be bothered.

    Others ... however ....

    Any that say they don't or won't ... may be in for a supprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    If three or more bikes travelling in a group, attract the attention of the law enforcers by the speed shown on the police radar .... I would say police reaction/intention would be to stop them for a chat. (not usually about old times sadly) If the radar showed they were all travelling at the same (or near) speed ... which was over the posted limit ... stopping them all may be an option.

    It is not necessery to have a locked on speed for each rider to get a ticket. (the word of the officer in court is enough ... eh)

    The odds of a speeding group being stopped as a group is low ... some officers can't be bothered.

    Others ... however ....

    Any that say they don't or won't ... may be in for a supprise.
    Shit I thought we had finished....obviously not.Put aside what the intention of the police or the group is and look at the practicalities. 1 x cop+3 x bikes = 4 involved parties. Whilst stopping them all may be an option open to the police as you quite rightly state, the actual practiclity may be quite different as I quite rightly state. There are variables that work in all parties favour,
    • The officers ability to make 3 bikes stop
    • The riders intention to carry out the officers wish for them to stop
    • Whether the officer can be bothered
    • Whether the riders can be bothered
    • Whether the roading network supports flight
    • Whether the rider can control their steed in flight
    • Whether the aid can be mustered by the officer from his supporting team to intercept
    • etc, etc, etc


    In other words, you make your own luck. You spin the wheel and take your chances, just like the intersection advert. You may choose to spin, or you may choose to stop. Everyone has a choice.
    In saying all this, I am not saying condone flight, just sayin

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    Did a bit of research on the cops lazers. Seem pretty low key stuff. While I think it could be possible to record 3 bikes, I personally can't see a cop doing it.
    Easier to do one at a time. Spread the budget over all three through the month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    If the fucking cop is parked up ahead of you ... lights fashing ... as they like to do ... and signal ALL of you to stop. Anyone that tries to continue ... will be the number one target, adding failing to stop to the list of charges.

    Then it's licences please people ...
    Then the cop has to prove in court that you intentionally failed to stop. How was each rider know that they were meant to stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    Then the cop has to prove in court that you intentionally failed to stop. How was each rider know that they were meant to stop?
    http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/ro...g-signals.html
    They would have to have passed this test even on learners......
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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/ro...g-signals.html
    They would have to have passed this test even on learners......
    If it's one cop on the side of the road waving out to 3 riders, how does the cop then prove in court that one particular rider failed to stop, especially if one or more riders does decide to stop?

    And if the cop goes up behind a group of riders with their red and blue flashing lights, then technically only the rider at the back has to stop since the cop car isn't directly behind the first 2 riders. So pretty much as long as they don't get your tag, and you don't bin it, and your mates don't rat you out, and you go down a side road before the cop coming the other way manages to get you, then you're fine. I remember seeing a thread on here a couple of years ago regarding that sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    Then the cop has to prove in court that you intentionally failed to stop. How was each rider know that they were meant to stop?
    Apart from the fact you had to run over his foot to pass ... Its you that has to "prove" you didnt know.

    As I recall ... you have to stop when signaled to do so by a police officer. If he says (in court) he did ... Guess who gets believed ...
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