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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    Because apparently people believe its their right to be unemployable.........
    Fuck knows who told them that.
    For some it was their parents....and their grandparents....


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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    Don't get me wrong I love the idea of people shooting themselves in the foot. I just don't like paying for their diapers and training wheels.
    Even rabbits have to be smart - if they just relied of breeding they would have got wiped out years ago.
    And yet you won't offer them the rope with which to hang themselves, despite the fact that that's what it takes to become a fully functioning member of this society. Put the Rand down man, step into the light
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Where's the financial management classes? And how to dodge taxes 101? Surely as we need to invest etc... according to every man and his dog such classes should exist i.e. this is how the market works, this is what a good "bet" looks like, don't put all of your eggs in one basket etc... but we don't and the simple reason is that if everyone did that, no fucker would work. No need to look any further than that. we know what it takes to make money, yet it is not taught at school, so there ain't no need for the tin foil hat brigade to show how fackin ignorant they are in this case, other than if anyone thinks that that is a conspiracy, they need their head read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    You need to be drug free (alchohol included) to safely operate dangerous machinery.

    no you don't

    i operate some of THE most dangerous machinery in the country on a weekly basis. i don't drink much because i can't afford it, but i smoke like a train. and haven't hurt anyone to date. (anyone that i didn't intend to hurt, that is.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    i operate some of THE most dangerous machinery in the country on a weekly basis.
    You're a barrista?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    You're a barrista?

    i do enjoy my coffee. but no. (i meant and and )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    If you can't feed yourself or your kids Darwin says you die.
    Actually, that's not correct.

    If I can't feed myself or my children, then it's actually you who will die. Will I let them starve? No, of course not. Will I home invade you, kill your family and take anything of value to pay the rent for a few more weeks, of course I will.

    I know who you are. I know where you live. I know what you do, and I can approximate what you earn.

    Why on earth would I let my children starve when I can feed them simply by executing you and yours?

    If we put a few thousand people into this position, how do you think the 8500 sworn officers in this country will prevent this? Magic?


    /edit: Not you you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post

    i do enjoy my coffee. but no. (i meant and and )
    Smiles, eyebrows and hats? That's a bit hard core buddy, calm down!!!!!

    I too enjoy a good coffee, welfare people should make lots of coffee, then everyone would be happy and shut the fuck up
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Actually, that's not correct.

    If I can't feed myself or my children, then it's actually you who will die. Will I let them starve? No, of course not. Will I home invade you, kill your family and take anything of value to pay the rent for a few more weeks, of course I will.

    I know who you are. I know where you live. I know what you do, and I can approximate what you earn.

    Why on earth would I let my children starve when I can feed them simply by executing you and yours?

    If we put a few thousand people into this position, how do you think the 8500 sworn officers in this country will prevent this? Magic?


    /edit: Not you you
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    Darwin, survival of the fittest not survival of the richest
    Survival of the run and hide and die with those you have run and hid with.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    Smiles, eyebrows and hats? That's a bit hard core buddy, calm down!!!!!

    I too enjoy a good coffee, welfare people should make lots of coffee, then everyone would be happy and shut the fuck up
    sorry. but i've just had too much caffeine. see. when i say coffee.. i mean the kind that paralyses children and causes heart problems in otherwise-healthy adults. most people make it with water. i make it with coffee. and grind and snort a couple of beans if i want a real kick.

    i've expressed myself poorly. i'll go sit in the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Will I home invade you, kill your family and take anything of value to pay the rent for a few more weeks, of course I will.
    Guess that's the point at which we discover if you're more likely to survive by stealing my stuff than you might have been doing it my way.

    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    Darwin, survival of the fittest not survival of the richest
    They're not mutually exclusive qualities, dude. In fact, as any casino floor manager would tell you guys try harder to keep their hard earned cash than they ever will to risk winnings.
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Guess that's the point at which we discover if you're more likely to survive by stealing my stuff than you might have been doing it my way.
    Why force that position? Surely it's cheaper to pay the benefits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Actually, that's not correct.

    If I can't feed myself or my children, then it's actually you who will die. Will I let them starve? No, of course not. Will I home invade you, kill your family and take anything of value to pay the rent for a few more weeks, of course I will.

    I know who you are. I know where you live. I know what you do, and I can approximate what you earn.

    Why on earth would I let my children starve when I can feed them simply by executing you and yours?

    If we put a few thousand people into this position, how do you think the 8500 sworn officers in this country will prevent this? Magic?


    /edit: Not you you
    I guess its at that point, you find out if the 'rich bastard' has a gun, dog, or has had the time to study some obscure form of self defence.... It's funny how this 'sense of entitlement' operates... the real question is... WHY is it that this person (yourself described as example) is IN the position of not being able to fed his children in the first place??
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayWolf View Post
    I guess its at that point, you find out if the 'rich bastard' has a gun, dog, or has had the time to study some obscure form of self defence.... It's funny how this 'sense of entitlement' operates... the real question is... WHY is it that this person (yourself described as example) is IN the position of not being able to fed his children in the first place??
    can't understand how they would get in that position in NZ where we have people working full time and still on a benefit to top up their wages, where hundreds of people will get off their arses and turn up for a single position, where the CEO's get over a 9% increase whilst the staff are lucky to get 1 or 2% if they get to keep a job and if they lose their job they then have a 6 month stand-down. Can't think of any reason why a person might feel they are in that position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayWolf View Post
    I guess its at that point, you find out if the 'rich bastard' has a gun, dog, or has had the time to study some obscure form of self defence.
    Why should the rich bastards have to arm themselves up in the first place? Isn't that indicative of the law creating problems instead of solutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrayWolf View Post
    I... It's funny how this 'sense of entitlement' operates... the real question is... WHY is it that this person (yourself described as example) is IN the position of not being able to fed his children in the first place??
    Myself? You not meaning you goes both ways... Changing the law in this way isn't going to change facts; people will end up in that situation. Why change the law if it's only going to make things worse? A carrot might be a better device than a stick in this case.

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