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    Quote Originally Posted by Frits Overmars View Post
    Such an experience will influence your workshop like a new girlfriend will influence your house .
    I found it. In my other workshop.
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    Great looking all right esp for a Suzuki....




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    knock gauge

    I have just been putting on my knock gauge on the bucket and when I run her in the drive with the sensitivity set half way, reving the bucket up the gauge went off like a christmas tree and I am wondering what others have there gauges set to?
    The gauge is from http://www.knockgauge.eu and the sensor is off a subaru car. It's mounted on a 100cc LC two stroke on a head stud straight onto the head with nothing inbetween if that is any help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel pig View Post
    ... reving the bucket up the gauge went off like a christmas tree and I am wondering what others have there gauges set to? ...
    We have one of those but only learning about these things ourselves. And this is how we think it works if that's any help.

    Knock rings in the cylinder like a bell.

    The ringing has a frequency that depends on the size of the cylinder, bigger the cylinder/combustion chamber the lower the frequency.

    The adjustment on the knock gauge selects this frequency much like tuning in a radio station.

    The adjustment on the knock gauge is not about adjusting the loudness of the radio station.

    To tune the knock gauge in you adjust the knob until you see two strong green lights when accelerating.

    We think the two green lights indicate the knock gauge is tuned in properly.

    It would worry me if I was seeing the red deto light at this point and start backing the ignition off or richin it up.

    On our first dyno runs with the knock gauge we saw perfect green on the pull and red xmas tree lights on the run down so it was detonating badly on run down with a closed throttle.

    TeeZee's is set at about a 1/3rd.

    We would love to hear more from someone with experience using one of these knock gauges.

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    I guess you have to tune with out it and then when tune is perfect then adjust it. Kinda pain having to do that but its better than not having it

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    OK moto3 is on i sitting her watching the one thing i can't understand is.
    why do they sound so crap. bbbbpppppprrrrrrrrr, wtf it so monotone...........Don't they have a powerband and expansion chambers?
    Also i thought they were all going to be Honda powered (in hindsight that might be the Moto2's). I feel ripped off regardless
    I will have to turn the sound down i guess.



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    Its kinda lost its appeal to me now since they went four stroke

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel pig View Post
    I have just been putting on my knock gauge on the bucket and when I run her in the drive with the sensitivity set half way, reving the bucket up the gauge went off like a christmas tree and I am wondering what others have there gauges set to?
    The gauge is from http://www.knockgauge.eu and the sensor is off a subaru car. It's mounted on a 100cc LC two stroke on a head stud straight onto the head with nothing inbetween if that is any help.
    Its funny you say that. I have presactly the same Subi deto doofer & knockgauge. I connected it yesterday & went to the dyno. Rang up like a tree. I ended up ignoring it & feeding in smaller jets & advanced timing increased the power so I can't believe it was setup right.

    My sensor is on the side of the cylinder. I wonder it it is just getting too much vibration? Not that it vibrates that bad. . . I turned the dial to try calibrate it & didn't get much change. maybe it is in a sensitive plane to operate the piezo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Its funny you say that. I have presactly the same Subi deto doofer & knockgauge. I connected it yesterday & went to the dyno. Rang up like a tree. I ended up ignoring it & feeding in smaller jets & advanced timing increased the power so I can't believe it was setup right.

    My sensor is on the side of the cylinder. I wonder it it is just getting too much vibration? Not that it vibrates that bad. . . I turned the dial to try calibrate it & didn't get much change. maybe it is in a sensitive plane to operate the piezo.
    If you can get your hands on an oscilloscope it works a treat. We just used one on the UoA dyno with a WR450. Mounted sensor on the side of the cylinder. Knock showed up as huge spikes on the oscilloscope. Well above any other noise. Then again it was on a steady state eddy current dyno. Things might go a bit quicker on one of those inertial thingys. #4StrokebutStillRelated

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    I could even get the deto light showing revving it in neutral - & that was after finding the point of best power was somewhat advanced of where I started & progressively increased till I went too far & went back a little.

    [edit] Wonder if an aircooled motor 'rings' so much that it is not useable?
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    Finning on the cylinder might be doing that, cut some old inner tubes into thin strips roll them up and jam them between the fins.

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    Maybe I just wait till I water cool it, I can do that on the 100. - Funny I've kept some of the rubber dampers they come with std in the past, - but threw them out as I could never think why I'd put them back in. . . until. . .
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