MotoGP 2012

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th September 2012, 12:20

Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie

Looks like everyone will be eating a bit of crow on that prediction. No one said anything about second.........

See post # 2900

**denill** · 17th September 2012, 12:21

Originally Posted by roogazza

Probably the latter, but it made my day.

Even I was pleased to see such a strong ride that showed promise - but Gaz, it should have been up there 18 mths ago. It's a bit fkn late now.

Plus if Stoner and Pedro had been where they shoulda been it would have been a 4th place finish..............

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th September 2012, 12:28

Originally Posted by denill

Even I was pleased to see such a strong ride that showed promise - but Gaz, it should have been up there 18 mths ago. It's a bit fkn late now.

Plus if Stoner and Pedro had been where they shoulda been it would have been a 4th place finish..............

I agree it should've been there well before now. But second is second fair and square. Don't matter that Stoner and Pedro were'nt there...because they weren't! Not Rossi's fault they weren't!

**tail_end_charlie** · 17th September 2012, 12:35

The 2nd place result definately looks good, especially considering that it is Ducati's home race; but more importantly it looks good because it is the first race with the new frame and swingarm. But is it indicative of actual improvement made by Ducati, or just the combination of circumstances (CS and DP out, others lacking set-up time)?

That question will probaly only be answered after we see how things go at Aragon.

**Oscar** · 17th September 2012, 17:01

Originally Posted by denill

Plus if Stoner and Pedro had been where they shoulda been it would have been a 4th place finish..............

...and if my Granny had wheels, she'd be a wagon.
It's racing for gawdsake - you gotta stay on the bike, and on track, and to finish first, yada yada...

**denill** · 17th September 2012, 17:31

Originally Posted by Oscar

...and if my Granny had wheels, she'd be a wagon.
It's racing for gawdsake - you gotta stay on the bike, and on track, and to finish first, yada yada...

And the gap between Lorenzo and Rossi was a big one and no doubt coulda been bigger. Just putting the 2nd placing in perspective - so youse don't over celebrate..............

**Brett** · 17th September 2012, 19:45

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Maybe the home Italian extra 1/2 sec a lap? Either way...makes you wonder how hard he's been trying until now. Awesome effort though regardless.

Bet you're glad you said he wouldn't win and wouldn't get 3rd! You can still honestly say that you were correct in you predictions without having to eat humble pie.

I don't know what to make of his 2nd place finish...without a few more decent races to compare to it's hard to say it was anything but a statistical outlier. I think he's gonna open up a can 'o whip ass on that Yammie though (at least I hope so).
Gutted for Pedrosa, very random bad luck! maybe Lorenzo will stack out next race and bring it back into contention.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th September 2012, 20:07

Originally Posted by Brett

Bet you're glad you said he wouldn't win and wouldn't get 3rd! You can still honestly say that you were correct in you predictions without having to eat humble pie.

I don't know what to make of his 2nd place finish...without a few more decent races to compare to it's hard to say it was anything but a statistical outlier. I think he's gonna open up a can 'o whip ass on that Yammie though (at least I hope so).
Gutted for Pedrosa, very random bad luck! maybe Lorenzo will stack out next race and bring it back into contention.

lol. I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong though. Pleased I was in a lot of ways. Moto GP without a competitive Rossi ain't the same. Same as I'll miss Stoner. I think, as I've said many times...Rossi will win the gloves off races, he's still the best brawler one on one...but I think Lorenzo on the whole will too fast.

**scrivy** · 17th September 2012, 20:09

Why did Pedrosa have to start off the back of the grid?
The commentator said because he started it in pit lane. But it was started on the grid on the stand.

**ecko_nzed** · 17th September 2012, 20:18

Originally Posted by scrivy

Why did Pedrosa have to start off the back of the grid?
The commentator said because he started it in pit lane. But it was started on the grid on the stand.

Because he got passed by the safety car on the sighting lap.

**Oscar** · 17th September 2012, 20:46

Originally Posted by ecko_nzed

Because he got passed by the safety car on the sighting lap.

It happened before that.
You aren't allowed to work on your bike after the 1 min board - as a result he should have started the warm up lap from pit lane (and he certainly shouldn't have been put back on the grid).
Notwithstanding that, it appears that while all that was going on someone bumped his pit lane limiter - he got passed by the safety car when he was figuring that out.

**Oscar** · 17th September 2012, 20:48

Originally Posted by denill

And the gap between Lorenzo and Rossi was a big one and no doubt coulda been bigger. Just putting the 2nd placing in perspective - so youse don't over celebrate..............

Did he get less points for it?
Was he like second-and-half or summat?

**guzzitony** · 17th September 2012, 21:43

Originally Posted by Oscar

Did he get less points for it?
Was he like second-and-half or summat?

haha, hi oscar. cheers matey, got my red nose,opps top on sat from Gaz. some nice metal on display.

cheers Guz

**denill** · 17th September 2012, 22:06

Originally Posted by scrivy

Why did Pedrosa have to start off the back of the grid?
The commentator said because he started it in pit lane. But it was started on the grid on the stand.

Think this sheds some light