Can I avoid the registration ripoff by getting a dealer plate?

[HenryDorsetCase]

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"the rules"?
this one's been had before.

the LEGISLATION doesn't actually apply to any of you,

Please explain how and why, for some of us country bumpkins. With references, I intend to read this and critique it.

[Swoop]

dont even have to be a dealer: proprietor of a transport museum sounds like me:

it is 42 square metres of tasty goodness, stuffed with half worn out VFR400NC30 parts, newer triumph parts and an old POS.

Ooh!
People would travel from far and wide to see such a unique museum! Definately go for the museum plate!

[jasonu]

"the rules"?
this one's been had before.

the LEGISLATION doesn't actually apply to any of you, if you're dumb enough to bow before a policy enforcement officer - that's when it starts to apply, but it's a game you haven't ben taught to play, so usually costs you time and money, while they (cops, lawyers, legislators, judges) keep going to the bank.
policy enforcement officers aren't taught this either, they're taught to enforce policy, so to derive a benefit from what i know i use their own rules (legislation, which the police ARE bound by, given that it created them) against them.
as far as the OTHER "benefit" i get from the government: they pay off the fines that their agents have created.
that's the game.
that's their game.
i know it, i play it, I win.

("benefit" in inverted commas, because if they hadn't created the fines in the first place they wouldn't need to pay them off, thus it's not actually a benefit to me, but a nett loss to the country.
good game. good game.)

I don't rate a person such as yourself that uses the dole to pay off fines as being a winner.

[Big Dave]

Trade Plates have a 50Km maximum travel radius. The vehicle's route and the destination are also meant to be documented and carried, as is a statement of roadworthiness.
You are just giving them more sticks to hit you with.

[RDJ]

Bike registration is just another example of you can't win, you can't break even, and you can't avoid the game. But then riding is worth more than all the hassles combined. It was a beautiful morning down here in the Manawatu, the sun was up, the road was clear, the bike was in full song... Just great. Yes, another >$1100 coming up for registering two bikes of which I can ride only one at a time, but then, better than having $1100 and no bikes.

[Akzle]

So why would this happen, if it's all so clear as you state?

Questioned specifically about the registration? Or they just didn't notice?

1) becaues the process of "registration" involves an "application" this is all very technical "we now own your ass" legalese jargon,
... but an "application" CAN be denied by the "authority", to whom most people register *cough* abandon, "their" vehicles.

2) i couldn't answer that on behalf, i know it has been commented, and given that the first thing the stasi do is "run your plates" (and licence), for all i do not give them much credo, i'm sure they can mostly read...

i'll try and get a copy of me mate's rego up for ya.

[Akzle]

Please explain how and why, for some of us country bumpkins. With references, I intend to read this and critique it.

legislation, read it. i've also explained this ad nauseum on this forum and elsewhere.
a person is a legal corporate fiction.
i stand as a man, not a fiction, not a person.
a person is created by the registration of a live berth. (and assigned an IRD#, SSN etc (tax/corporate registration number) AT BERTH!!(/incorporation))
"governments" use persons to trade, and do all sorts of maths, like this dollar is more than that dollar, and this bank can afford to make up this much credit while this one can't and this economy gets a billion dollar bailout while this one we just sell guns to etc etc etc.

most legislation in NZ is headed (around-a-bout point 3) that "this ACT binds the crown" - i am not the crown, i am not employed by the crown, so why should that ACT bind me?
(and who the fuck is the crown, because i want to hallal them.)

and why are they called ACTS is not for the purpose of ACTors.

other search queries you might want to pursue are:
-common law
-admiralty law
-freeman on the land

things that might help you in your critique-scapade (and minimise the number of dumb questions you want me to answer) are: law dictionary, plenty of coffee, few joints...

I don't rate a person such as yourself that uses the dole to pay off fines as being a winner.

and you base your ASSumption on?

[Big Dave]

i stand as a man, not a fiction, not a person.
a person is created by the registration of a live berth.

Boats, boats, boats. That's all 'e ever thinks about.

[Akzle]

Boats, boats, boats. That's all 'e ever thinks about.

see above concerning admiralty law and berth registration. (of a citizenSHIP maybe huh?)
the devil is in the detail. law is a game of semantics and etymology.

[jasonu]

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and you base your ASSumption on?

Common sense

[awayatc]

"the rules"?

as far as the OTHER "benefit" i get from the government: they pay off the fines that their agents have created.
that's the game.
that's their game.
i know it, i play it, I win.

Hard to take somebody serious who boasts about getting a "benefit"yet proclaims to be intelligent......

people who don't live in my world can't possibly give me any sort of worthwile advise......

[jellywrestler]

.....

people who don't live in my world can't possibly give me any sort of worthwile advise......

I'm not and never have been on the benefit so I can tell you that it's actually: worthwhile & advice...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Bike registration is just another example of you can't win, you can't break even, and you can't avoid the game. But then riding is worth more than all the hassles combined. It was a beautiful morning down here in the Manawatu, the sun was up, the road was clear, the bike was in full song... Just great. Yes, another >$1100 coming up for registering two bikes of which I can ride only one at a time, but then, better than having $1100 and no bikes.

That is poetry. and I agree.

Like I said to that hooker recently: "Well, I don't know what that is, but whats another $500"?

[HenryDorsetCase]

legislation, read it. i've also explained this ad nauseum on this forum and elsewhere.
a person is a legal corporate fiction.
i stand as a man, not a fiction, not a person.
a person is created by the registration of a live berth. (and assigned an IRD#, SSN etc (tax/corporate registration number) AT BERTH!!(/incorporation))
"governments" use persons to trade, and do all sorts of maths, like this dollar is more than that dollar, and this bank can afford to make up this much credit while this one can't and this economy gets a billion dollar bailout while this one we just sell guns to etc etc etc.

most legislation in NZ is headed (around-a-bout point 3) that "this ACT binds the crown" - i am not the crown, i am not employed by the crown, so why should that ACT bind me?
(and who the fuck is the crown, because i want to hallal them.)

and why are they called ACTS is not for the purpose of ACTors.

other search queries you might want to pursue are:
-common law
-admiralty law
-freeman on the land

things that might help you in your critique-scapade (and minimise the number of dumb questions you want me to answer) are: law dictionary, plenty of coffee, few joints...



and you base your ASSumption on?

I think its fair to say that I have read a lot more legislation than you have.

I get it now: you're insane.

[ukusa]

Bike registration is just another example of you can't win, you can't break even, and you can't avoid the game. But then riding is worth more than all the hassles combined. It was a beautiful morning down here in the Manawatu, the sun was up, the road was clear, the bike was in full song... Just great. Yes, another >$1100 coming up for registering two bikes of which I can ride only one at a time, but then, better than having $1100 and no bikes.

It's the $100 per ride I pay for each of the 1/2 dozen or so rides a year I enjoy on my classic Bonnie (not vintage yet . This is why I take the risk of no rego. But at 750cc it is infinitely more powerful than all those sub 600cc bikes that are eligable for slightly cheaper rego, or so I'm told by those in the know at NZTA !