LAMS question. Does your reg label match your bike model?

**rastuscat** · 28th September 2012, 08:00

I've come across a lot of bikes over the years where the model is slightly or totally different from the one quoted on the Licence label.

E.g. My Gilera Runner, badged as such, was a Piaggio Runner on the Licence label.

Anyone else have a similar story? It hasn't mattered much in the past, but for LAMS bike and their very close variants it's critical.

Just interested in how big the problem is.

**paturoa** · 28th September 2012, 09:02

They have all been fine, including the cages.

**neels** · 28th September 2012, 09:13

According to the rego labels, my son has been riding around on a suzuki GSKR250, one of our work vehicles is a Nissan Nirvana, and I recently sold a Fiat Tip.

**rastuscat** · 28th September 2012, 09:15

Originally Posted by neels

According to the rego labels, my son has been riding around on a suzuki GSKR250, and one of our work vehicles is a Nissan Nirvana.

Those GSKRs are limited editions.

Ditto for the Nirvanas, although I've never seen Nissan making anything close to heavenly.

**paturoa** · 28th September 2012, 09:19

I wonder if there has been a Nissan Menstural?

**davereid** · 28th September 2012, 09:24

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Those GSKRs are limited editions.

Ditto for the Nirvanas, although I've never seen Nissan making anything close to heavenly.

I don't think the database is that good.

My ER6F was labelled an EX650 I think.

My XJ6 Jaguar is called a Daimler on their database.

My Nissan pathfinder petrol v6 was a diesel until eventually it found it way onto the database correctly after a wof, and I stopped getting the you-owe-RUC letters.

My TGB moped is just "Factory Built TGB"

It will be even more difficult with restricted version of bikes appearing specifically to meet LAMS like the variants of Suzuki 650s that are already showing up.

Suzuki NZ will ensure all the ones they register are correct, but private importers will not necessarily care as much.

**Scuba_Steve** · 28th September 2012, 09:31

when searching for a new bike, I did have a couple of interesting ones, best was.

A Honda "blue & white" but thats alright it's colour was "vfr"

There was also a Honda "750"

**rastuscat** · 28th September 2012, 09:36

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

when searching for a new bike, I did have a couple of interesting ones, best was.

A Honda "blue & white" but thats alright it's colour was "vfr"

There was also a Honda "750"

Nice. Blue and white is the new VFR.

Trouble I see coming is at the roadside enforcement stop. A cop reads the reg label and does a QVR and the bikes shows as a GSX650F, which isn't LAMS approved. The bike is actually a GSX650FU, which is. He writes the ticket, forbids the guy from driving, all coz some numpty committed a typo. Big waste of everyone's time, and creates a grievance. Something good to bitch on KB about, I guess.

Amusing stories out there though.

**imdying** · 28th September 2012, 09:46

Originally Posted by davereid

My ER6F was labelled an EX650 I think.

That does not surprise me, Kawasaki seem to be the biggest offenders (most confused importers?).

A 1993 ZXR750 is also known as a ZX750, or a ZX7, depending on where in the world you are! I'll LMFAO when I see one registered as a 1993 Ninja (cause you know it'll happen

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**Hawk** · 28th September 2012, 09:54

yes interesting times ahead, I own suzuki sfv650li which isnt on Lams list but sfv650u is

**Scuba_Steve** · 28th September 2012, 10:28

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Nice. Blue and white is the new VFR.

Trouble I see coming is at the roadside enforcement stop. A cop reads the reg label and does a QVR and the bikes shows as a GSX650F, which isn't LAMS approved. The bike is actually a GSX650FU, which is. He writes the ticket, forbids the guy from driving, all coz some numpty committed a typo. Big waste of everyone's time, and creates a grievance. Something good to bitch on KB about, I guess.

Amusing stories out there though.

Course then there'll also be the other-side of the GSX650FU which has had it's ECU umm... "upgraded", making it a GSX650F but still rolling with GSX650FU labels.

End of day it's not like it matters much anyways, this restriction thing is more illusion than anything else, you're either gonna be able to ride or not.
Sure theres always the likes of people that if no restriction would get the busa as their 1st bike but when they twist the throttle & the bike takes off 1km down the road ahead of them they'll learn their expensive lesson quite fast I would assume

**MarkW** · 28th September 2012, 20:09

I have 2 Honda D'eauvilles - both of which are, in theory, LAMS approved.

One is registered as a Honda NTV 650 and the other is a Honda NT 650V.

My Reid Trailer is a "Local" (thats like Nissan) and the model is a "Reid"

The Boat trailer is even more fun - it is a "Boat" (thats also like Nissan) and the model is "Trailer"

Years ago, the RG500 that I owned had completely different engine AND frame numbers on the paperwork to that displayed on the motorcycle itself. Was like that from new.

**tigertim20** · 28th September 2012, 20:12

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Nice. Blue and white is the new VFR.

Trouble I see coming is at the roadside enforcement stop. A cop reads the reg label and does a QVR and the bikes shows as a GSX650F, which isn't LAMS approved. The bike is actually a GSX650FU, which is. He writes the ticket, forbids the guy from driving, all coz some numpty committed a typo. Big waste of everyone's time, and creates a grievance. Something good to bitch on KB about, I guess.

Amusing stories out there though.

sounds like due diligence on the rider. KNOW your rules, KNOW your bike is legal, and the paperwork matches, if it doesnt, either DONT buy it, or get off your lazy ass and GET it fixed. Cant blame the cop for reading the label and doing his job according to the letter of the law can you? - just the same with trucks and log books and shit - if your paperwork is in order, you dont have a worry

**Subike** · 28th September 2012, 20:23

Im interested,
From this Monday, is there going to be road check points across the country , targeting motor bikes?
It seems to me, that making sure you have the correct license, and the right paperwork ,for your bike is going to be the same as it always has been. All that has happened is the goal posts have been moved by the legislators as far as what you can ride. If you already have your R6 full, then where is the problem. There are still going to be those who will flout the system, but they know they are doing this. Any new rider, is going to research what he /she is going to ride if he/she is going to do it within the law. I can see that KB has made a huge thing out of something that in reality might be quite small.