LAMS question. Does your reg label match your bike model?

[rastuscat]

Im interested,
From this Monday, is there going to be road check points across the country , targeting motor bikes?

No. It's not a big deal. Most Popos don't even know the law is changing, which is a problem in itself.

[JMemonic]

Any new rider, is going to research what he /she is going to ride if he/she is going to do it within the law. I can see that KB has made a huge thing out of something that in reality might be quite small.

If only that were true. I once knew a bloke who bought a Harley as his "mates" all had bikes and he wanted the best, this was not a young chap and one who you might have thought would have a little bit of a clue, of course he had no licence but was of the opinion that a motorcycle was no different to a bicycle and no licence required.

He apparently upon receiving his first incorrect licence type went back to the dealers and threatened legal action as they never informed him of the requirement for said licence.

[Spazman727]

My Honda CB250 was a Honda NAS, which is a freakin weird looking concept bike.

[nzspokes]

No. It's not a big deal. Most Popos don't even know the law is changing, which is a problem in itself.

Training of police staff does seem to be an issue after my recent dealings with them. You should be trained to do your job.

[Usarka]

A lot of bikes the official model is different from what's on the badge.

Interesting observation, can't wait to see it on reality tv!

[Oakie]

Arse! I just had to go out to the garage to check and did not expect any surprises. I got one! My Bandit is a GSF600S. My rego label though showed it as a GSF600SY (Being the fully faired model and not the half faired I have). When I checked the actual registration documents they correctly showed it being a GSF600S. Interesting then when I checked the VTNZ details from the last WOF and that also showed it as a GSF600SY. Just really strange that the rego document and the rego label were different given that surely they came from the same source data.

Moot point for this argument anyway as neither model is approved.

[neels]

That does not surprise me, Kawasaki seem to be the biggest offenders

True that, I've got a Zephyr 750 which on the rego papers is a ZR750, the only place you'll find that on the bike is if you look at the frame/engine number.

Arse! I just had to go out to the garage to check and did not expect any surprises. I got one! My Bandit is a GSF600S. My rego label though showed it as a GSF600SY (Being the fully faired model and not the half faired I have).

Unless you have a 2000 model that was registered in 2001, in which case the Suzuki year designation is Y, and is sometimes added on to the end of the model.

Have this with my DRZ, it's a 400EY on the rego label, E model and year 2000, but the LAMS list only has a 400S and 400E so is mine learner legal?

[rastuscat]

Moot points count too. It highlights one of the inadequacies of the system.

My current bike is shown as silver in the system. The manufacturer calls it champagne. Anyone I ask says its gold. When you register a bike, even the smallest error follows the bike through its life.

[rastuscat]

Training of police staff does seem to be an issue after my recent dealings with them. You should be trained to do your job.

The problem is the volume. There is so much we are expected to know, it's kind of huge. Nobody knows everything, not even Akzle.

On 1 October the new Search and Surveillance Act comes into force, and that's dwarfed anything else. I doubt that LAMS gets a look in. I raised it in Chur Chur, and virtually nobody had heard of it. I ran a few training sessions for the people who might need to know, but it's very under the radar.

If you asked most people how important it was, it'd wouldn't get a mention. It's big to us, as a motorcycle group, but we are a rare breed at best. Most people don't give bikes a second thought, unless it's to complain about them, so LAMS is a micro issue at best.

[nzspokes]

The problem is the volume. There is so much we are expected to know, it's kind of huge. Nobody knows everything, not even Akzle.

On 1 October the new Search and Surveillance Act comes into force, and that's dwarfed anything else. I doubt that LAMS gets a look in. I raised it in Chur Chur, and virtually nobody had heard of it. I ran a few training sessions for the people who might need to know, but it's very under the radar.

If you asked most people how important it was, it'd wouldn't get a mention. It's big to us, as a motorcycle group, but we are a rare breed at best. Most people don't give bikes a second thought, unless it's to complain about them, so LAMS is a micro issue at best.

Im dealing with a specialist unit that should have training in this as it is there core work. Im not dealing with general duty staff. The staff have been great and are very good at doing what they know. I bear no grudges to them. They dont know what they dont know.

[bogan]

When you register a bike, even the smallest error follows the bike through its life.

Therein lies the problem. All the main bits have been right on my vehicles, except for the seat count on the van. It was 2, with 6 seats present. I asked nicely for them to change it when I did my rego, only to be told it needed re-vinning/certing or some shit.

Why don't they allow shit like this to be corrected easily, bike shops know the difference between the models, so why can't they change the details when doing a wof or whatever. Then it would be up to the owner to ensure their bike's details are on the LAMS list if they are a learner, and cops could issue tickets on such technicalities which could be overturned if the details were corrected.

[scumdog]

Training of police staff does seem to be an issue after my recent dealings with them. You should be trained to do your job.

Tell me about it - there's so many aspects of training and introcucing new legislation etc that I'm susprised we have the time.

[nzspokes]

Tell me about it - there's so many aspects of training and introcucing new legislation etc that I'm susprised we have the time.

I thought you were all rocket scientists that wanted to make a difference?

But as ive said, the staff have been great. They just dont know this part of what they do.

[Oakie]

Moot points count too. It highlights one of the inadequacies of the system.

My current bike is shown as silver in the system. The manufacturer calls it champagne. Anyone I ask says its gold. When you register a bike, even the smallest error follows the bike through its life.

Yeah. I was working on the Motor Registration counter in the 80s when they bought the change in to plain colour descriptions. The one I always remembered and one that highlighted the problem was a Ford vehicle I think that came in 'Sirocco'. Anyone care to guess what colour that might be?

[Subike]

Yeah. I was working on the Motor Registration counter in the 80s when they bought the change in to plain colour descriptions. The one I always remembered and one that highlighted the problem was a Ford vehicle I think that came in 'Sirocco'. Anyone care to guess what colour that might be?

Can I have a guess
It is Red, the colour of the dust blown by the winds over the Canary Islands

(Ford nutt from way back)