Lack Of Silence Of The LAMS - A Good Idea

[Gremlin]

VTNZ/WOF - they have so much to remember as it is, better take a VIM along with you.
etc etc

Yep, sorta done this. Told them to get their copy of the VIRM to prove I was correct... I was wrong on one part, correct on another... so yes, pays to be knowledgeable. You don't go and randomly buy a bike without knowing about it first do you?

[rastuscat]

Why not have a document re LAMS in every car or even only every HP car until everyone gets there heds around the changes?.

Coz we'd have to fit a trailer to each car to carry the volumes of shite we have to know, in case we need to know it.

[Big Dave]

I was just going to do a runner, wheelie and flip it on to the cop, it'll be his fault.

You funny.

[Bassmatt]

Coz we'd have to fit a trailer to each car to carry the volumes of shite we have to know, in case we need to know it.

OK sounds fair I mean if I want to take music in my car with me its a real hassle trying to stop the needle bouncing around and scratching my records.

I know your a bit behind in CHCH, but in 2012, in the rest of the world, the word "document" no longer means paper need to be involved.

[Gremlin]

It'll be solved by giving cops roadside internet access.

Please send my taxpayer finded iPad 3 to my work address. The chances of my employer paying for one is fack all.

OK sounds fair I mean if I want to take music in my car with me its a real hassle trying to stop the needle bouncing around and scratching my records.

I know your a bit behind in CHCH, but in 2012, in the rest of the world, the word "document" no longer means paper need to be involved.

Uh... I think successive governments put a lot more money into the dole than the police. Simple thing is money... the police are cutting staff, so why would they be spending up large on non essential items? I'd imagine every regular cop in the force has at least one story about needing something for work and not getting it.

[arcane12]

Pretty cheesed about it too.

I was sitting in court this morning when I posted it from my personal smart phone. I was waiting for my car thief offender to turn up, which he didn't, so warrant issued.

I was sitting there, waiting for the court process to grind on, and wondered what I could do to make things better for some LAMS riders.

I have thoughts about how I can make things better for bike riders. I know my position, and know that making the world a better place is beyond me. But instead of worrying about what I can't do, I think about what I can do.

So I did. Posted some advice that might help someone, given that I know the state of general knowledge on motorcycle specific legislation.

I can't upskill every cop in NZ. I can't upskill every rider in NZ. So much shit I can't do. But I do the shit I can.

So there.

I think some of us appreciate the thought. I think I will have to print a copy of the list when I upgrade my Scorpio to a LAMS bike. Wonder if I can get away with a print out of the older list and go buy a 650 V-Strom?

[FJRider]

This is your answer to being employed in a job that has ongoing training requirements? Seriously?

I've got another idea... how about actually knowing about the offending that you're policing?

Or just take it to court. Being proven innocent in court will make the popo look silly ... and keep him/her off the beat for a few hours ...

[ducatilover]

Just a little thought.
Rastus, will you not be told if a bike is on the LAMS list when you radio the plate in? Shirley you fullas have the technology to have that information.

[FJRider]

Just a little thought.
Rastus, will you not be told if a bike is on the LAMS list when you radio the plate in? Shirley you fullas have the technology to have that information.

Under standard Goverment policy ... that technology will be available in 2014.

[mossy1200]

I dont understand why the rego label doesnt get printed with lams after the model.
Wouldnt that be the best bet for the future.

[tbs]

I dont understand why the rego label doesnt get printed with lams after the model.
Wouldnt that be the best bet for the future.

That's what I was thinking... and you should be able to take your current LAMS approved bike in and have a revised rego label printed at no charge.

[willytheekid]

I dont understand why the rego label doesnt get printed with lams after the model.
Wouldnt that be the best bet for the future.

...best idea yet!

[sleemanj]

It'll be solved by giving cops roadside internet access.

Please send my taxpayer finded iPad 3 to my work address. The chances of my employer paying for one is fack all.

"Coms, Rastus. Q-LAMS X650"
"Rastus, Coms. X650 LAMS Compliant"

[sleemanj]

I dont understand why the rego label doesnt get printed with lams after the model.
Wouldnt that be the best bet for the future.

That was the original plan, was even part of the law.

I don't know why they didn't follow through with that, but I can guess that they realised they don't want to put "LAMS Compliant" on the label because they don't know if that specific bike has been modified, in which case it's no longer LAMS compliant.

So it would open them up to liability if a bike was sold with a LAMS compliant label on it, but it was no longer LAMS compliant... and somebody topped themselves on it.

[pzkpfw]

That was the original plan, was even part of the law.

I don't know why they didn't follow through with that, but I can guess that they realised they don't want to put "LAMS Compliant" on the label because they don't know if that specific bike has been modified, in which case it's no longer LAMS compliant.

So it would open them up to liability if a bike was sold with a LAMS compliant label on it, but it was no longer LAMS compliant... and somebody topped themselves on it.

Good point, but hardly different to a WOF label on a vehicle that has since become un-WOF standard, and having a related crash though the sticker is still on it...