Suzuki Hayabusa 12,000km service costs?

**FJRider** · 20th October 2012, 08:08

Originally Posted by Stylo

Just got the Bike back from the dealer, Gen 2 'Busa, from having it's 12k service , Oil, filter and check check etc, Inspected everything = normal service, nothing major and no valves or engine work done, steam cleaned, chain cleaned and checked my radiator blah blah . Charge was $395.00 incl, wtf ?

How much are these guys charging the spanner time at ?

Tell me I'm Mr Scrooge .....

Next you'll try and tell us you bought the 'Busa for economy reasons ...

**Katman** · 20th October 2012, 08:28

Originally Posted by DEATH_INC.

I suspect you have a standard charge for services, regardless of the time it takes, like most shops do?

Absolutely not.

I've never been able to understand that practice.

**nzspokes** · 20th October 2012, 08:42

Originally Posted by Katman

Absolutely not.

I've never been able to understand that practice.

Out of interest what would you charge for a cam chain on K1 Bandit 1200?

**Woodman** · 20th October 2012, 09:05

Originally Posted by DEATH_INC.

I suspect it's for warranty purposes. While you should still be covered I've seen warrantys voided due to minor stuff that wasn't done as specified by an independent shop (in this case non oe oil filters)
I suspect you have a standard charge for services, regardless of the time it takes, like most shops do?
Yes, in some cases their service can be crap. But you still have the choice to deal with them or not.

They cannot void warranty if non OE filters or parts are used unless those parts have caused a problem that results in a warranty claim. A few car franchises tell new owners that they must use OE parts and servicing otherwise their warranty is voided but it is untrue and they know it.

**SMOKEU** · 20th October 2012, 09:25

Originally Posted by bogan

If the best alternative is a guy who makes them, I'd suggest it isn't NZ dealerships doing the ripping off.

What are the stakes anyway? bit of fuel leakage, of big ball of flames? I've always had good results with gasket goo...

It only leaks about a litre of fuel every minute. I'm serious.

Originally Posted by nzspokes

E-mail this guy, hes in Whitford. Real GC and will probably have one for f/all.

http://www.smebike.com/about_us

Cheers, will do.

Originally Posted by DEATH_INC.

Um...what makes you say they are ripping you off? That's what they cost, you know it, your choice if you want it.
Do you KNOW what it cost to produce that little gasket?
And btw, I've re-used them a couple of times with no issues if it's not damaged.

Considering you can get rubber gaskets for cars for only a small fraction of the price of this one, I call rip off. I don't see how a 15 year old Suzuki needs a special type of material that is so expensive to make since the material looks to be the same as just about every seal on a typical car.

**DEATH_INC.** · 20th October 2012, 16:51

Originally Posted by Woodman

They cannot void warranty if non OE filters or parts are used unless those parts have caused a problem that results in a warranty claim. A few car franchises tell new owners that they must use OE parts and servicing otherwise their warranty is voided but it is untrue and they know it.

Wanna take that up with Suzuki NZ? See how far you get....

**DEATH_INC.** · 20th October 2012, 16:58

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Considering you can get rubber gaskets for cars for only a small fraction of the price of this one, I call rip off. I don't see how a 15 year old Suzuki needs a special type of material that is so expensive to make since the material looks to be the same as just about every seal on a typical car.

That may be the case...but I doubt we are keeping Soozooki open with the sales of srad fuel pump gaskets. I also suspect they don't make them...like a lot of that stuff, they probably get it made by someone else.
Think about this too, how many srads were there that used that gasket? Then consider how many corollas (for example) there are . Divide the designing/tooling costs into that number and it may look a bit more realistic. The actual material cost will be minor.....
btw, isn't it more of a seal than a gasket? Can't really remember...

**FJRider** · 20th October 2012, 17:03

Originally Posted by Woodman

They cannot void warranty if non OE filters or parts are used unless those parts have caused a problem that results in a warranty claim. A few car franchises tell new owners that they must use OE parts and servicing otherwise their warranty is voided but it is untrue and they know it.

They can ... if it's a condition of sale ... and your signature is on the sales agreement ...

**bogan** · 20th October 2012, 17:08

Originally Posted by FJRider

They can ... if it's a condition of sale ... and your signature is on the sales agreement ...

Sales conditions don't override the CGA though.

**FJRider** · 20th October 2012, 17:24

Originally Posted by bogan

Sales conditions don't override the CGA though.

Depends on if the quality of the non OEM parts, are of any quality worth having ...

**FJRider** · 20th October 2012, 17:29

Originally Posted by Stylo

Don't believe what you read about 'Busa's , over 300kms on a tank and , with a good tyre I'm getting around 7000 kms including a day at the drags. Running Z8 Metzelers btw. Grin factor is free.

Still a little miffed at 395 for a glorified oil change although I'm not so sure what "Throttle body synchonization" means as placed on the invoice.

Scrooge

It means $45 an hour labour costs minimum (for the most part by the apprentice)

Grin factor is hardly free ... but is unlimited ...

**bogan** · 20th October 2012, 17:31

Originally Posted by FJRider

Depends on if the quality of the non OEM parts, are of any quality worth having ...

No it doesn't. The quality of the parts doesn't come into the equation unless (as woodman explained) those parts cause the warranty claim.

**Jantar** · 20th October 2012, 17:34

Originally Posted by Stylo

Don't believe what you read about 'Busa's , over 300kms on a tank and , with a good tyre I'm getting around 7000 kms including a day at the drags. Running Z8 Metzelers btw. Grin factor is free.

Still a little miffed at 395 for a glorified oil change although I'm not so sure what "Throttle body synchonization" means as placed on the invoice.

Scrooge

A throttle body sync (also known as a throttle balance) would explain the higher cost. Each of the throttle bodies (carburators in pre FI equivilent) are connected to a manometer to check that they are all drawing the same vacuum at various throttle settings. No parts normally required for this, but add on an hour or so for labour.

Have a look at http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ot-quite-right for what happens when it isn't done right.

**nzspokes** · 20th October 2012, 17:37

Originally Posted by Jantar

A throttle body sync (also known as a throttle balance) would explain the higher cost. Each of the throttle bodies (carburators in pre FI equivilent) are connected to a manometer to check that they are all drawing the same vacuum at various throttle settings. No parts normally required for this, but add on an hour or so for labour.

Have a look at http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ot-quite-right for what happens when it isn't done right.

But easy to do, http://nswbandits.forumotion.net/t311-tb-balance-sync