Best bike for newbie with money no barrier?

[Akzle]

racking the memory banks: mate had a CBR250RR, got boring real quick. my first bike was an 80s ninja 250 (GPZ?), so my swing goes that way.

[hellokitty]

Get a Busa.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to nzspokes again.

[mrcamel]

Hey guys thanks for all the useful feedback!

Just to be clear, definately not interested in a scooter!

With regards to naked vs fairing, given i need to use it on the motorway approx 20km each eay everyweekday, shouldnt i go with a fairing option because of the wind/rain issues with a naked?

Definately will go try some bikes out after doing an intro session and getting the learners...

The cbr seems good given a second hand one is going for around $5k on trademe?

Else if you think im going to want to tradeup pretty quick after the restricted and confidence comes, then what are the better fairing options around say $2-3k then ?

[Glowerss]

Hey guys thanks for all the useful feedback!

Just to be clear, definately not interested in a scooter!

With regards to naked vs fairing, given i need to use it on the motorway approx 20km each eay everyweekday, shouldnt i go with a fairing option because of the wind/rain issues with a naked?

Definately will go try some bikes out after doing an intro session and getting the learners...

The cbr seems good given a second hand one is going for around $5k on trademe?

Else if you think im going to want to tradeup pretty quick after the restricted and confidence comes, then what are the better fairing options around say $2-3k then ?

I use my bike everyday to go to and from work, 50-70ks round trip. Ive gone from a naked, to a half faired, to a fully faired.

If it's raining, you're going to get wet. Doesn't matter how little or how much plastic you have in front of you. You get SLIGHTLY less wet, but with something like the CBR250 it's going to make shit fuckall difference.

I'd still pick up a 1500$ scorpio or GN250, and after 3 months when you've learned to thrash the tits off of it, then buy something for a bit more dosh.

You might drop 5k on a cbr250, and then 2 months later realize you want more pep for motorway work then the measly 22HP the CBR 250s single cylinder engine has. Who knows, you might love the little CBR, but if it was me, I'd go with something cheap as until you figure out what suits your riding style best.

[caspernz]

you be trollin...

Ah right, I forgot that was your speciality...

As you were

[LankyBastard]

Get a Busa.

Wow ten points, a high five and gold star for originality. Honestly is this your best effort at being constructive? Cause it sure as shit aint funny.

[mossy1200]

Wow ten points, a high five and gold star for originality. Honestly is this your best effort at being constructive? Cause it sure as shit aint funny.

Spokes Busa runs on one cylinder and not even very well on that one so may be LAMS legal.

[GrayWolf]

Hi all

Ok so i have always wanted to own a bike but have yet to ride even one and know next to nithing about them.
Stats:
Im 174cm tall, 80kg, can drive manual cars easy and push bikes no issues.
Looking for:
Commute to central auckland from Orewa
Sporty looks

Random points:
Im worried about dropping and damaging the bike so maybe should look for something light?
Money is no issue (up to say $10k)
I have read about the Honda cbr250r and ninja 250 and read that having ABS is safer so maybe a bike with that?
Also given zero technical knowledge i read having newer fuel injection systems are easier to start and don't have to worry about a 'choke' or revving for a bit....prefer something that is v easy maintenance so maybe again a newer bike like the cbr250r??
Given i want to use it on the motorway im thinking at least 250cc?
Lastly, i know its not doing it justice and i need to go physically look but watching some online videos of the cbr250r i thought the engine sounded really lame like a scooter?!?! So want something with a decent growl but dont want a death bike either!!!

Yes of course i intend to get an intro session somewhereandwill go check some showrooms but keen to get advice on some shortlists....

Thanks!

From your description I think you would be happiest with a CB250r. Personally, it would be my first choice for a complete learner, but it certainly ticks all your boxes.

Generally I would advise a naked bike like a GN250 or a Scorpio for the first 6 months, then by the CB250r or perhaps a GS500F.
Modern bikes don't really need FI, as modern carbs are pretty reliable. Also I wouldn't worry about ABS until you are a very profficient rider.

Having read your post, I'd agree with Jantar on getting a GN or Scorpio for 6 months, I have ridden a CBR250 and know the GS500 well, I would disagree with the CBR as the better option, I would go for the GS500... it is an easier bike to ride power delivery wise. It has better torque not dependant on revving it to produce power, and it has a reasonably good fairing if you buy the current one on sale. Will also handle 2 up better than a 250 in reality.

[98tls]

Forget how much money you have to spend and buy a second hand trailbike,spend plenty of hours off road learning the basics,its cheap when you fall off,it doesnt hurt as much and you learn far more than wobbling about on road.No doubt not a popular option for the "i want it now" generation but you will be far better in the long run for doing it.

[98tls]

*TLR thou.

And look like your riding round with a Platypus sticking out your bum hole,wouldnt wish that on anyone.

[Glowerss]

Having read your post, I'd agree with Jantar on getting a GN or Scorpio for 6 months, I have ridden a CBR250 and know the GS500 well, I would disagree with the CBR as the better option, I would go for the GS500... it is an easier bike to ride power delivery wise. It has better torque not dependant on revving it to produce power, and it has a reasonably good fairing if you buy the current one on sale. Will also handle 2 up better than a 250 in reality.

Wrong CBR. They're talking about the new CBRs (confusing I know, nearly as bad as the bloody "ninja" moniker) Which are single cylinder fuel injected thingers. They actually produce a fair bit of torque very early in the rev range.

Strictly speaking the CBR would be a good bike to learn on, but you might find yourself tiring of it after awhile of doing of doing some serious motorway travel.

[Ocean1]

Forget how much money you have to spend and buy a second hand trailbike

Listen carefully to this dude.

I'll remind you about it when you learn your first painfull lesson on the road.

[Gremlin]

Get something naked. Not trying to be negative, but most learners drop/crash their bikes at some point. All those shiny fairings just make the lessons more expensive to learn.

[tnarg]

How about one of these-

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-477902878.htm

or

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-508178891.htm

Both LAMS bikes.

[mrcamel]

Ok so going to take heed if the advice and save the dosh for the 2nd bike and stick to a scorpio/gn250 for the first.

Have to say im quite anxiious about the comments reg WHEN i fall/drop rather then IF...lol...So yea will have to get the nice heavy gear first and find some vast public offroad places in auckland to give them a blast..any recomended public areas around aucks??

And so there are a bunch of each on trademe for around $2k...the scorpio looks a bit nicer/sportier compated to the gn250...what are the differences i should know of to decide? Any particular years of models to avoid?