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    Quote Originally Posted by DEATH_INC. View Post
    Wanna take that up with Suzuki NZ? See how far you get....
    It has already been to court. If Suzuki ever pull it off it is because their customer hasn't tried hard enough or been lawyered up enough.


    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Depends on if the quality of the non OEM parts, are of any quality worth having ...
    If the quality of the parts causes an issue then of course the dealers won't warranty it, that is up to whover sold/installed the part. What they cannot do is say that the warranty on the vehicle is void just because non OEM parts are fitted or servicing is not done by them.

    For example if a non OEM filter is fitted, and then their is an unrelated problem with the rear brake caliper, the dealers cannot say that the warranty was voided completely when the non OEM filter was fitted so therefore not fix the caliper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    OEM bits or aftermarket ones ???

    The CGA applies to both.
    Of course it does, but if an aftermarket part fails, a different party is liable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    For example if a non OEM filter is fitted, and then their is an unrelated problem with the rear brake caliper, the dealers cannot say that the warranty was voided completely when the non OEM filter was fitted so therefore not fix the caliper.
    Point taken ... and I would agree.

    The agents for dealers are more of a worry the the dealerships themselves.

    Their own budgets more of an issue than parts fitted quality ... (in the customers interest only of course)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Of course it does, but if an aftermarket part fails, a different party is liable.
    Depends on who agreed/asked ... to it being fitted.

    Customer ... screwed unless they sue the manufacturer of that part (good luck with that)

    Dealer/agent ... (without asking) ... would still be liable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Depends on who agreed/asked ... to it being fitted.

    Customer ... screwed unless they sue the manufacturer of that part (good luck with that)

    Dealer/agent ... (without asking) ... would still be liable.
    Now he gets it
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    Getting a bit off track....but....the part in question was an oil filter (two actually) and the bike ran the bearings. Oil filter was a reputable brand (can't remember which....) and the work was done by a good mech in a non-suzuki shop. Basically suzuki said prove it wasn't the filter....though I know of a couple of other bikes (same model) that also did the same thing outside the warranty period....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEATH_INC. View Post
    How many of you guys have run or been directly involved with the mechanical trade?
    If you were I think you'd not be so unrealistic. Shops have overheads, and yes, paying the mechanics to do nothing is one of them.
    The bike shops are not getting rich off you, in fact wait 'till next year and see how many we lose due to them going under.
    $400 is not that bad. Live with it or go somewhere else.
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    yep totally agree there got to pay rent staff wages gst i dont think make fortune of selling the new

    bikes thats for sure, we need to support the bike trade, if your on a budget i say b4 look i can afford

    This much and like others have said say u change to oil yourself, as it get changed automatically other

    wise, i been working bikes bit more and must say its bit of prick of job you end up cutting yourself

    It whouldint be something i enjoy doing day in day out bloody frustrating, i be happy as to get

    Trained expert work on my bike be great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stylo View Post
    Don't believe what you read about 'Busa's , over 300kms on a tank and , with a good tyre I'm getting around 7000 kms including a day at the drags. Running Z8 Metzelers btw. Grin factor is free.

    Still a little miffed at 395 for a glorified oil change although I'm not so sure what "Throttle body synchonization" means as placed on the invoice.

    Scrooge
    Maybe next service ask in advance what the rough cost is gonna be? My two wheeled toy goes to my chosen place of extravagant expense (aka Wellington Motorcycles) and they do a standard 4 cylinder service cost, basic oil and filter change is $xxx, then the major service which includes valves and carb syncro is $xxx so the surprise factor is kept to a minimum. Works for me.

    300 clicks on a tank and 7K on a tyre is proof that you don't have to use all the power all the time....

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    It's not actually a margin set by the dealer or even the manufacturer, it's not because we're 50,000kms from the place of manufacturer, or that we're trying to put bread on the table, the real reason why genuine parts are so expensive is because it's actually a nationwide competition between the dealers, the departments and even the brands to make you look like a massive fool.

    Every year the motorcycling industry meets to have a feast of epic proportions with salmon cooked in kiwi cooked in an albatross cooked in a kea in a kakapo, we also snort cocaine and hire high class hookers for the evening, the height of the evening comes when each department in each dealership shows security camera footage of "the biggest idiot" this is the person who purchases the most mundane part for the highest price, it is decided upon fairly by a representative from each manufacturer from each dealership, transaction proof and a paper trail is required showing the cost to manufacture, ship and then the "idiot" tax added.

    It is considered the highest achievement and shame (for the respective party) if a dealership purchases one of these parts, just the other week ducati quoted me $390 for a front brake light switch for an ST4, I knew it was a loaded part, cause I've done the same thing to them (crush washer for $260 - they almost bought it!)

    the workshop guys are known for being particularly crafty sometimes they can have many parts on 1 job, which makes it easier for them to hide the loaded item, this is probably why your bill was so expensive, I guess we'll see you at the annual meeting.....or at least a video recording....cant wait to see your face when you actually pay....haha that amount, they just use time travel so a days work doesn't actually take any real time, it's just an infinite smoko....haha remind me to get someone to pay for that one day "that'll be infinity dollars sir"

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    Yes, I think I was at the German version of that feast last month...no idea why they call it Octoberfest when it starts in September??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave- View Post
    It's not actually a margin set by the dealer or even etc....
    I can see it now....half of KB will be saying 'I knew it!' and will believe you
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEATH_INC. View Post
    I can see it now....half of KB will be saying 'I knew it!' and will believe you
    The truth comes out.
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    Bloody cheapskate third world .......

    If you want to grizzle about the cost of servicing your bike in NZ, how do you ever expect your kids to have higher paying jobs in the future? Where I live, a little Indian bloke will bring a cup of coffee to your house if you want, for no charge other than the cost of the cup. Problem is these little I ndian blokes also drive the buses and taxis for $300NZ a month, they do the 'servicing' on your vehicle, build the roads and anything else you demand. Point is we could have it like this in NZ soon, but you really wouldnt want to live with the shit level of workmanship. My suggestion is to let people make a decent wage, do a decent job, having been trained to do it right. I'm bloody sure I wouldnt want ride a HYAbusa if the average mechanic in Dubai had had his grubby paws anywhere near it!!!
    lucky bastard

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    Quote Originally Posted by liljegren View Post
    If you want to grizzle about the cost of servicing your bike in NZ, how do you ever expect your kids to have higher paying jobs in the future? Where I live, a little Indian bloke will bring a cup of coffee to your house if you want, for no charge other than the cost of the cup. Problem is these little I ndian blokes also drive the buses and taxis for $300NZ a month, they do the 'servicing' on your vehicle, build the roads and anything else you demand. Point is we could have it like this in NZ soon, but you really wouldnt want to live with the shit level of workmanship. My suggestion is to let people make a decent wage, do a decent job, having been trained to do it right. I'm bloody sure I wouldnt want ride a HYAbusa if the average mechanic in Dubai had had his grubby paws anywhere near it!!!
    Exactly! We are already starting to see it happen here.....we're too f*cken cheap for our own good!
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    What a load of tripe.
    Apart from the post by Dave-

    $400 seems reasonable for a service of that sort, esp if it's meant to incl. spark plugs.
    Suzuki parts are also generally at quite the premium.
    Like $50 for the $6 chinese air filter for a GN (can be cheaper if purchased in bulk)
    Or $20 for the $2 Chinese oil filter they sell you.
    But... they need to make money somehow eh? Pull your fucking head out.

    If you want cheap servicing, do it yourself, or bring it to me, I'll do it for giggles and smokes.


    SMOKEU, you should be able to get that gasket for well under $100, it's common to a few Zooks (post '98 TLS for example, 97-98 had a different gasket set up)
    That $223 or whatever is a bit too inflated really.



    At the end of the day:
    Don't like the costs? Go elsewhere or do it yourself.
    Just don't have a bitch when your local shop goes under because nobody goes there to help 10+ men feed families.
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    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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