MotoGP 2012

[Robert Taylor]

Hmmmm, interesting comment that I have dragged up because I seem to remember Casey making a hell of a save in FP3 (I think) at PI.

Nonetheless the guy that won the championship finished first or second in every single race except the one he was taken out in , he accumulated the most points. Sure not as fast as Stoner around Phillip Island but a well rounded champion because he knows how to finish races and relentlessly keep accumulating points. A better employee I would have to say. He also withstood relentless pressure from Honda upping the ante mid season on, because they hate losing. He didnt get much help from Spies so he had to handle such pressure almost single handedly.
The best man won and on a bike that mid season on was clearly a little inferior to the Hondas.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nonetheless the guy that won the championship finished first or second in every single race except the one he was taken out in , he accumulated the most points. Sure not as fast as Stoner around Phillip Island but a well rounded champion because he knows how to finish races and relentlessly keep accumulating points. A better employee I would have to say. He also withstood relentless pressure from Honda upping the ante mid season on, because they hate losing. He didnt get much help from Spies so he had to handle such pressure almost single handedly.
The best man won and on a bike that mid season on was clearly a little inferior to the Hondas.

Shit you've got it worse than I thought! So what about last season Robert? Would you say the same about Stoner?

[merv]

Yep no doubt George is a worthy champion and this year with the thou, at least going by the speed figures posted on MotoGP.com, the Yamaha wasn't down oodles of km/hr compared to the Honda like the 800 used to be. So Yamaha made some good gains too not only having a sweet handling bike but one that could compete on the straights albeit it didn't seem to get the drive out of the corners the Honda did.

Now the question remains how come one guy could do what he needed to on the Yamaha while the other was a failure? Was it really because his mother pissed all the guys off?

The satellite Yamaha and Honda boys also had relatively good runs. I had hoped for more from Bradl though.

[merv]

Shit you've got it worse than I thought! So what about last season Robert? Would you say the same about Stoner?

Well he'd have to say the same I reckon, except for the inferior bike thing as that last 800 Honda was a rocketship.

Mind you if Casey had been riding for Yamaha then Robert would have to have drooled over his boy.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yep no doubt George is a worthy champion and this year with the thou, at least going by the speed figures posted on MotoGP.com, the Yamaha wasn't down oodles of km/hr compared to the Honda like the 800 used to be. So Yamaha made some good gains too not only having a sweet handling bike but one that could compete on the straights albeit it didn't seem to get the drive out of the corners the Honda did.

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Lorenzo is 100% the worthy Champion this year. He rode smart...fast, was consistant and was there or thereabout all year. But don't confuse straight line speed for the best bike like Robert is doing. Otherwise...the Ducati and the worlds best develpoment rider and racer of all time would still be winning eh!

Me? If I was offered a ride on any of them...it'd be the Yamaha. I mean...have a look at their sat riders results compared to the Hondas?...

It would seem to me that the Yamaha is in actual fact by quite some distance the bike to be on.

Must be eh Robert!? It's just like Ohlins!

[BMWST?]

Sure did.

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that first shot is brilliant.It confirms my beleif that casey is more off the bike than anyone else,and that there are two different styles.I think its bautista(or bradl and lorenzo have the most extreme lean angles
Notice that there is not one crt bike in the shot,obviously still very early on too

[Drew]

Lorenzo is 100% the worthy Champion this year. He rode smart...fast, was consistant and was there or thereabout all year. But don't confuse straight line speed for the best bike like Robert is doing. Otherwise...the Ducati and the worlds best develpoment rider and racer of all time would still be winning eh!

Me? If I was offered a ride on any of them...it'd be the Yamaha. I mean...have a look at their sat riders results compared to the Hondas?...

It would seem to me that the Yamaha is in actual fact by quite some distance the bike to be on.

Must be eh Robert!? It's just like Ohlins!

Or Yamaha let their sat teams have closer to the factory bikes specs. Which would hold up with a very common perception of Honda.

[Crasherfromwayback]

that first shot is brilliant.It confirms my beleif that casey is more off the bike than anyone else,and that there are two different styles.I think its bautista(or bradl and lorenzo have the most extreme lean angles
Notice that there is not one crt bike in the shot,obviously still very early on too

At the track it's so obvious as to the diff styles of the riders. Lorenzo is like a surgeon with mm precise precision. Stoner is like an axe murderer with the smell of blood on his radar.

Or Yamaha let their sat teams have closer to the factory bikes specs. Which would hold up with a very common perception of Honda.

Doubt it. Honda would far prefer being on spots 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8

[BMWST?]

Or Yamaha let their sat teams have closer to the factory bikes specs. Which would hold up with a very common perception of Honda.

I dunno,I mean Bradl is a rookie,and Bautista is first year on a Honda that is a little different than the others(his is showa equipped no?)Dovi is very experienced and shown himself to be nearly an alien.Cruthlow 2nd year in the same team if not the same bike.so maybe not that much different.Chatter was a big problem for the Hondas all year,although Dani /new frame seemed to cope very well at times esp later in the season.Be interesting to see what happpens next season.Will Honda get rid of the Chatter?Will yamaha run into a similar fate in trying to squeeze a few more ounces of traction out of their sweet handling bike.Often seems to happen that roles are reversed one season to the other.

[Drew]

Doubt it. Honda would far prefer being on spots 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8

Not if their factory bikes are 7 and 8 they wouldn't.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Not if their factory bikes are 7 and 8 they wouldn't.

Never gonna happen mate. Lets see now...they hired Lawson, Gardner AND Doohan. See what I'm getting at? They would occupy every top spot given the chance. Remember...they lost Rossi partly because thay always insisted it was down to the bike more so than the rider that they kept winning. Honda are greedy.

[Drew]

Never gonna happen mate. Lets see now...they hired Lawson, Gardner AND Doohan. See what I'm getting at? They would occupy every top spot given the chance. Remember...they lost Rossi partly because thay always insisted it was down to the bike more so than the rider that they kept winning. Honda are greedy.

You're prolly right I suppose, they are known for not sharing toys.

[BMWST?]

Never gonna happen mate. Lets see now...they hired Lawson, Gardner AND Doohan. See what I'm getting at? They would occupy every top spot given the chance. Remember...they lost Rossi partly because thay always insisted it was down to the bike more so than the rider that they kept winning. Honda are greedy.

they want the best bikes AND the best riders...even with Dani and MM they still wanted casey too

[tail_end_charlie]

they want the best bikes AND the best riders...even with Dani and MM they still wanted casey too

Don't forget that they want the proper rules too, the rules that benefit them that is.

[Drew]

The rules that benefit them that is.

Zero restrictions then, fuckin MINT!