Spring's here, time to die

[danchop]

this tip works in winter too i think.
approach any vehicle wanting to turn into your path as a murderer, and slow down enough that the outcome will only be attempted murder

[Katman]

this tip works in winter too i think.
approach any vehicle wanting to turn into your path as a murderer, and slow down enough that the outcome will only be attempted murder

I think this is half our problem - over dramatization.

Looking upon car drivers as though they're out to kill you is only encouraging the animosity that is all too prevalent on our roads already.

Treating every other vehicle on the road as a potential threat is quite sufficient.

[onearmedbandit]

I think this is half our problem - over dramatization.

Looking upon car drivers as though they're out to kill you is only encouraging the animosity that is all too prevalent on our roads already.

Treating every other vehicle on the road as a potential threat is quite sufficient.

+1. Motorists are not out to kill you.

[Katman]

+1. Motorists are not out to kill you.

And thinking they are is what produces motorcyclists who view every car driver as a "fucking cager" and who then fall back on the victim mentality in the event of a crash - because it's easier to view the car driver as an attempted murderer rather than examine how you might have avoided the crash.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hmmm - note from son #1 yesterday - BTW.. there was a couple of fat crass good' ol' HD boys on the day, one was so busy being a stereotype he pulled out straight into another biker! Poor other guy, nice old geezer went home after that. Meanwhile 'HD Man' started being a jerk, until Em showed him the footage she had on her iphone, then he accepted responsibility and has to pay for two repairs...... y-ouch!

perhaps Pete could enlighten us?

lol. Yep. Poor geezer got torpedoed by a true numpty that simply didn't look where he was going and didn't know what he was fucking doing. All in front of the shop with many people watching. You'd think you'd be extra careful eh?!

[caseye]

S'OK Pete, not your fault.They're out there, everywhere.
Another +1 to KM.
Agree with you on that one these days I do.

[Maha]

I think this is half our problem - over dramatization.

Looking upon car drivers as though they're out to kill you is only encouraging the animosity that is all too prevalent on our roads already.

Treating every other vehicle on the road as a potential threat is quite sufficient.

...and we are so friendly towards cyclists on our roads, the same roads that no one else should be feckin using while we are.

[Fatjim]

Some may find this topic is approached in bad taste...oh well, tough!

I'd love to know how many of the recent spate of deaths on bikes were year-round riders? Now I'm no expert, but in the last few years of my dad riding he only rode in the summer months, and it showed.

Both good riders and bad riders die this time of year.

[Fatjim]

lol. Yep. Poor geezer got torpedoed by a true numpty that simply didn't look where he was going and didn't know what he was fucking doing. All in front of the shop with many people watching. You'd think you'd be extra careful eh?!

Mate, Wellington motorcyles only got two repairs out of the day?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mate, Wellington motorcyles only got two repairs out of the day?

Surprising seeing some of the riding yes!

[BMWST?]

Until you know the facts quite frankly you should stop surmising. It was a tragic weekend and personally I am waiting for the outcome of the accident investigations before randomly and insensitively surmising on cause and effect.

yeah but look at his screen name.

[BMWST?]

The two riders that were killed in Lindis Pass were not at fault.
The two riders killed in Taranaki (and the number of others that ended up in hopsital from the same accident) were not at fault.
Two others killed in the w/e gone were crashes with cars and even if the outcomes from the polices investigations are not completed, there are big possibilities that the bikers were not at fault.

I know that this makes no difference to the numbers of bikers killed, or makes it easier to accept the sad outcomes. I also am one of the ones who advocate the view that only I am responsible for my safety. Expect the unexpected.

But it is hard to stomach when you go on doing your own business and then suddenly, at no fault of your own, some imbecile crashes in to you with a cage leaving a widow and kids without one parent.

Is the only answer really to stop riding? I refuse to accept that!

i beleive the other two(not the farmer) were SINGLE VEHICLE ACCIDENTS

[Drew]

...and we are so friendly towards cyclists on our roads, the same roads that no one else should be feckin using while we are.

Those cunts can fuck right off. I don't care if you think it's because I don't want to share the roads, cyclists in the CBD and state highway 2, here in Wellington deserve to get hit half the time.

When they don't get hit, and are just fucking traffic up, they should be getting ticketed for impeding the flow of traffic. Also for not riding single file. Also for failing to remain inside a lane. Also failing to indicate.

Show me any other road user where the majority are as piss poor as cyclists for obeying the road rules, and I might feel bad for the ones that get killed or hurt. Till then, they can suck my sweaty fuckin ball sack.

[Drew]

Both good riders and bad riders die this time of year.

I knew three riders who were all killed within a week of this date, some six years ago. All of them good, year round riders.

Two were riding like dicks, one was finished riding like a dick for the day, and just fucked it up.

Ability isn't always part of the equation, but I think it certainly has a massive part to play in lowering the road toll. Not bike specific, the road toll in general.

[Maha]

Those cunts can fuck right off. I don't care if you think it's because I don't want to share the roads, cyclists in the CBD and state highway 2, here in Wellington deserve to get hit half the time.

When they don't get hit, and are just fucking traffic up, they should be getting ticketed for impeding the flow of traffic. Also for not riding single file. Also for failing to remain inside a lane. Also failing to indicate.

Show me any other road user where the majority are as piss poor as cyclists for obeying the road rules, and I might feel bad for the ones that get killed or hurt. Till then, they can suck my sweaty fuckin ball sack.

Once again, you have failed to see the irony of what is said...
....I 80% agree with what you have said...the 20% in dispute is the is the use of the word 'deserve'...are you off the again?