The new iTunes

[Headbanger]

With printers (like all things) research before purchase is the key, specifically to identify if the required drivers are available to be installed separately from whatever bloated crap is supplied on the install cd, I personally never use the supplied cd. I have seen it cripple home and work pc's.

And again, In an attempt to ward of the douchebaggery, Spending 4 grand on hardware doesn't make this practice anymore welcome.

[bogan]

Yeah, I'd say Canon is Ok, you can control the install if you wish very easily, but otherwise it's quite functional.

HP.... urgh.

On the plus side, we put in plenty of Canon printers, good stable machines for the most part, excellent drivers etc. HP screwed us around for a month with a printer lacking RDP printing, until we finally found out from the product manager at the distributor. HP denied any issue (which made us dig further into the problem - pointlessly). Canon's best seller is HP.

Well Canon commandeered a corner of the desktop for a row of icons, might be useful to those who do scanning and printing daily, but for my perhaps monthly use I'll get rid of them...

I would recommend everyone else weigh up the pros and cons and then purchase an android device, You then have the choice as to whether or not you would like to use copy/paste or a more involved sync application, all without being forced into the apple system of wankery.

Can you get iTunes to sync with android devices though?

With printers (like all things) research before purchase is the key, specifically to identify if the required drivers are available to be installed separately from whatever bloated crap is supplied on the install cd, I personally never use the supplied cd. I have seen it cripple home and work pc's.

And again, In an attempt to ward of the douchebaggery, Spending 4 grand on hardware doesn't make this practice anymore welcome.

Welcome, no; tolerable, completely. I'll choose the best device or software for the job, I won't avoid companies that produce bloatware just to send a message as you seem to be advocating.

[Headbanger]

The benefit of using an android device is to get away from apple software and systems, It is possible to get the two to communicate but its asshole process which apple actively works against. But if the end user has a preference for itunes they should stick to an itunes device.



Your best bet is to simply never to have had itunes installed.

[bogan]

The benefit of using an android device is to get away from apple software and systems, It is possible to get the two to communicate but its asshole process which apple actively work against.

Your best bet is to simply never to have had itunes installed.

To many of us, that is not a benefit. One day you might understand why this is, but I won't be holding my breath.

[Headbanger]

To many of us, that is not a benefit. One day you might understand why this is, but I won't be holding my breath.

Fine by me, I'm happy to put some real world information out there for anyone interested.

Some people just love Apple wankery.

[Scuba_Steve]

The benefit of using an android device is to get away from apple software and systems, It is possible to get the two to communicate but its asshole process which apple actively works against. But if the end user has a preference for itunes they should stick to an itunes device.



Your best bet is to simply never to have had itunes installed.

obviously when you mention "android device" you're not talking Samsung (there could be others as bad but I haven't tried others so can't comment there)
I must say your life must be pretty boring if you have the time & effort to research every device/software you're gonna hook upto your system to find out what comes with it.
Which also brings the point your system itself must be pretty barren & boring (lest of course you're a hypocrite) if infact you do reject software that behaves like Apples own. After all their not the 1st, they won't be the last & they are by far not the worst aside from that a major majority of software out there does something of the same

As for the stuff left behind by Apple I would expect no less. The stuff left isn't iTunes specific so removing them would be the equivalent of removing something like DirectX components every time you uninstall a game

[Headbanger]

Sorry chap, Information is an important tool, Wallowing in ignorance is nothing to crow about.

If your going to recommend something to other people then you owe to them to look deeper then the shiny surface.

There is no more justification for apple installing unwanted software on my system then there is for the likes of kazaa to do so, The fact that many companies have shitbag intentions doesn't give them all the right to be shitbags. Nor should the end user be the one to suffer for it. Your comparison to directx is pretty dumb.

[Big Dave]

[bogan]

Sorry chap, Information is an important tool, Wallowing in ignorance is nothing to crow about.

If your going to recommend something to other people then you owe to them to look deeper then the shiny surface.

There is no more justification for apple installing unwanted software on my system then there is for the likes of kazaa to do so, The fact that many companies have shitbag intentions doesn't give them all the right to be shitbags. Nor should the end user be the one to suffer for it. Your comparison to directx is pretty dumb.

When you say ignorance, wankery, and look deeper etc, you really mean agree with you? and use a derisive manor to try and appear more knowledgeable or something? cos I think both me and SS have looked as deep as you have, yet...

I think the comparison to DX is a good one, sure the services left behind are likely only used by other apple stuff, and not likely to be used again, but in essence it the same shared software method as DX uses.

[Headbanger]

Yeah, I don't actually place any value on either of you guys views on the subject at hand.

Your claim that directx and apple services are similar only reinforces that position.

One is a integral component of the OS that allows direct communication to the hardware for efficient performance (and any updates installed by games are provided by MS), the other is just unnecessary shit installed and left behind by a media player.

[bogan]

Yeah, I don't actually place any value on either of you guys views on the subject at hand.

Your claim that directx and apple services are similar only reinforces that position.

One is a integral component of the OS that allows direct communication to the hardware for efficient performance (and any updates installed by games are provided by MS), the other is just unnecessary shit installed and left behind by a media player.

Not the function of it you muppet its the method of shared software that is the same. Must be bloody easy to get valued consensuses if you ignore those who disagree though, I'm sure more than a few software companies would be guilty of that

[Gremlin]

Well Canon commandeered a corner of the desktop for a row of icons, might be useful to those who do scanning and printing daily, but for my perhaps monthly use I'll get rid of them...

Fair enough. Last MX model I installed it put a tool tray icon in the bottom right, and a whole column floating on the desktop. It can easily be hidden if you wish, made it easier for the home of users anyway...

Can you get iTunes to sync with android devices though?

Wrong question. iTunes reads a directory of music files. With apps like FolderSync you can sync SMB shares and directories (and a hell of a lot of other things) to directories on your Android, both ways, single way, etc.

[The Lone Rider]

I don't know much of anything about them

The one thing I agree with what you wrote. And Fuck iTunes & Apple.

The rest I don't have to agree or disagree with; it is simply just wrong.

[ducatilover]

I see your small CPU friendly apple issues and raise you McCafee

And Vista

And the other million shit things out there

iTunes is not as heinous as it's being made out to be. I think Headbanger has something against the Apple products.

[Headbanger]

Not the function of it you muppet its the method of shared software that is the same.

The nature of both are defined by their function, But never fear, I'll contextualize it further to aid your comprehension.

Consider the oil in your bike to be dirextX, Its there by design and a requirement for the correct operation of your motor, Lets say you decide to enhance the capabilities of your motorcycle by replacing a number of internal components. When this is done you upgrade to a newer version of oil that compliments the new configuration.

Now consider you send your bike in to get a new headlight (itunes) fitted, You get it back and discover it has also been fitted with a water softener and a big red 2m flag, You think fuck, thats not what I wanted but then discover your light won't function without them, so you hit the road only to then discover the new light does nothing the old light didn't do, it just looks slick and has strong marketing.

So, fuck that, You head back to the shop, tell them to get rid of that shit, You pick your bike up, ride off down the road, The old headlight has been refitted, but fuck in hell, they left the water softener, the big red flag and all the fittings for the shitty light you didn't want.

Customer service, Apple style.