Just for Scummy!

[Edbear]

Mine's only a 390, only 335hp

And I'm too worried about nurking the old Cruise-o-matic to see how much stress the rear tyres can hsndle...

I'm guessing at the power as the spec list he's got is for the 390 and that says 345hp. May be some variation in listings?

I think it's done 79,000 miles.

Was the Cruise-o-matic the 3sp? This one is. I think I'll read his catalogue again, it's Larry's Thunderbird and Mustang Parts, 1958-1966.

[scumdog]

I'm guessing at the power as the spec list he's got is for the 390 and that says 345hp. May be some variation in listings?

I think it's done 79,000 miles.

Was the Cruise-o-matic the 3sp? This one is. I think I'll read his catalogue again, it's Larry's Thunderbird and Mustang Parts, 1958-1966.

Yeah, the c-o-m is a three-speed but heavy and not up to a lot of abuse.

428 T-birds like your mates came with a C-6, also three-speed but lots tougher.

[Edbear]

Yeah, the c-o-m is a three-speed but heavy and not up to a lot of abuse.

428 T-birds like your mates came with a C-6, also three-speed but lots tougher.

Ah, okay. Apparently the only way to prove it is the 428 is there was a Q stamped on the rear of the block. Before he brought it in he had everything fixed and tidied up in the States which included removing the trans for something and he's got the photo of that Q to show. The difference was the 428 had a longer stroke and they stamped the block so the assembly workers could tell which motor they were fitting.

Quite a few had their engines swapped out because they looked identical and were sold with the 390 instead. So hard to know whether you were buying the genuine 428ci.

[scumdog]

Ah, okay. Apparently the only way to prove it is the 428 is there was a Q stamped on the rear of the block. Before he brought it in he had everything fixed and tidied up in the States which included removing the trans for something and he's got the photo of that Q to show. The difference was the 428 had a longer stroke and they stamped the block so the assembly workers could tell which motor they were fitting.

Quite a few had their engines swapped out because they looked identical and were sold with the 390 instead. So hard to know whether you were buying the genuine 428ci.

Bottom pulley is different as the 428 is externally balanced, it has a counter-weight.

And stroke is longer, easily measure by taking out a spark-plug and running a length of brazing-rod down the plug-hole and noting how far it travels between piston fully up vs fully down.

Otherwise easy to 'pretend' a 390 is a 428.

[Edbear]

Bottom pulley is different as the 428 is externally balanced, it has a counter-weight.

And stroke is longer, easily measure by taking out a spark-plug and running a length of brazing-rod down the plug-hole and noting how far it travels between piston fully up vs fully down.

Otherwise easy to 'pretend' a 390 is a 428.

I knew you'd have a good knowledge of them, Paul is an enthusiast but not really a petrol-head. He's smart enough to know who to ask though which is why he uses the likes of Jay Leno's guy to check vehicles out. He sends him a list of cars and this guy goes through and decides how many he will actually check and tells Paul why and why not.

Only work this one needs now is door and hood compartment rubbers and the lock for the central console fixing.

He's got the spoke wheels but also has the original set of hubcaps for the standard wheels which were still with the car. About the only option it doesn't have is air-con. His daughter bought him a matching tote bag which fits nicely in the boot and has the original tool kit in it now.

[unstuck]

428's (including the CJ) can be identified by the "428" cast into the bottom of the water jacket right under the center frost plug. Gotta love those CJ 428's.

[Edbear]

The adjective that kept coming to mind was "effortless". Up a steep local hill he barely touched the throttle and 100km/h felt like 70. Totally relaxing cruise.

[ducatilover]

pretty sure they came out with big blocks from factory but wasn't a 454, the guy we bought it off in the states put it in at some point before we bought it.

Should be able to find out through the vin, there's a massive 'merkin vin data base somewhere on teh webbernets


Very sweet car Ed! I'd love to have a cruise in that bugger

[scumdog]

Should be able to find out through the vin, there's a massive 'merkin vin data base somewhere on teh webbernets


Very sweet car Ed! I'd love to have a cruise in that bugger

Yeah, vin has a Q in it for the 428, a Z in it if a 390 (the only motor options of that year)

However an unscrupulous person could easily swap motors and few would know - given the lack of obvious-at-first-glance differences...

[ducatilover]

Yeah, vin has a Q in it for the 428, a Z in it if a 390 (the only motor options of that year)

However an unscrupulous person could easily swap motors and few would know - given the lack of obvious-at-first-glance differences...

Makes it easier for me to sell dodgy cars... err umm.



Or bikes for that matter...

[Edbear]

Makes it easier for me to sell dodgy cars... err umm.



Or bikes for that matter...

Wot?? A dodgy Ducati Lover..? Naaahhh....

[doc]

Another Just for Scummie.

This is that Mustang we told you about. Ferkin sure it was only 8 grand when we first saw it.

Bit rough, but seems cheap enough with the low specifications.

[unstuck]

Another Just for Scummie.

This is that Mustang we told you about. Ferkin sure it was only 8 grand when we first saw it.

Bit rough, but seems cheap enough with the low specifications.

[scumdog]

Another Just for Scummie.

This is that Mustang we told you about. Ferkin sure it was only 8 grand when we first saw it.

Bit rough, but seems cheap enough with the low specifications.

COOL!
Good value (from the pic)

I wonder if he would trade on my Marina ute??

[MIXONE]

Just got back from a road trip around the Norf Isle and there was lots of lovely old tin,both hot rodded and restored,out and being used.Everything from a bunch of old baby austins tootling along at 70km to an outrageous early 70s mustang with the blower poking out of the bonnet that zapped me just south of Taupo.