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**bogan** · 10th February 2013, 18:41

Originally Posted by Madness

Economies of scale. A New Zealand distributor might buy enough swingarm bobbins for a year in 4 different colours. That volume might equate to something like an hour of the US markets demand. You're hardly going to get rich selling swingarm bobbins at the rate of our local market demand, yet the wholesaler & retailer are expected to carry all 4 colours. The margins at wholesale & retail level for these bobbins is never, ever going to be as high as it is with clothing. When as the last time you saw a motorcycle accessory clearance sale offering 70% off?

Are they expected to carry them though? With so many buying overseas it would suggest the customers aren't will to pay extra for this extra service, so why do it? Is it that the profits made from the customer segment still buying local outweigh the losses from those going overseas perhaps.

Economies of scale doesn't stack up when you customers are privately importing in lots of one.

**Madness** · 10th February 2013, 18:45

Originally Posted by bogan

Economies of scale doesn't stack up when you customers are privately importing in lots of one.

Oh, but it does. When you're privately importing from a US based online retailer you're enjoying the benefits of buying from someone who's selling in a market 700 times that of N.Z.

Again, the retailers don't have to stock bobbins, or parts, oil, or even open their doors. They can all close up shop tomorrow & we'll all be better off for it, right?

God, I love America.

**Kickaha** · 10th February 2013, 18:47

Originally Posted by Digitdion

Totally agree!

Do you actually know anything about importing or retailing?

**Madness** · 10th February 2013, 18:50

Originally Posted by Digitdion

By swearing and cursing at other forum members you will not achieve your goal.

I hate to drop this on you, Princess, but I have already achieved my goal. People are discussing the other side of the equation, beyond the "I just saved $4.95" and those (not all) with sufficient intellect are thinking about the issue, if nothing else.

And as for the swearing & cursing, I don't mind that as much as a false, unproven accusation of hypocrisy. Each to their own though, eh?

Twat.

**Robert Taylor** · 10th February 2013, 18:50

Originally Posted by Madness

Oh, but it does. When you're privately importing from a US based online retailer you're enjoying the benefits of buying from someone who's selling in a market 700 times that of N.Z.

Again, the retailers don't have to stock bobbins, or parts, oil, or even open their doors. They can all close up shop tomorrow & we'll all be better off for it, right?

God, I love America.

You wouldnt love it if the exchange rate was at around 60 cents. The trouble with Americans is you can hear them before you see them

**Madness** · 10th February 2013, 18:52

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

You wouldnt love it if the exchange rate was at around 60 cents. The trouble with Americans is you can hear them before you see them

I was being facetious, but you would have known that.

**Robert Taylor** · 10th February 2013, 18:52

Originally Posted by Digitdion

Totally disagree. You can buy almost anything from the web. Are clothing shops for example dropping like flys?
What I see with motorcycle stuff is the wholesaler is raping the retailer , and subsequently the customer.

That is a generalised accusation that I for one object to. Youve done your homework very thoroughly on this have you?

**Robert Taylor** · 10th February 2013, 18:52

Originally Posted by Madness

I was being facetious, but you would have known that.

I was being deadly serious

**Digitdion** · 10th February 2013, 18:56

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Do you actually know anything about importing or retailing?

Maybe , maybe not. Probably like most people on here. But yes I do have an opinion too.
I have experienced great service from bike shops. I have relieved absolutely terrible service from bike shops. I buy from New Zealand, and I buy stuff off the web from overseas.
I realize times are tough for many retailers out there. The ones that adapt will survive and do well when things stabilize.

When it's comes to imposing or retail. Can you answer this for me. Our dollar is high. A killer for exporters. But great for people bringing in goods to sell here. Why have the price decreases not been passed on to the customer to promote people buying motorcycle goods locally?
Vfr 1200s do not count.

**wasiler** · 10th February 2013, 18:57

Originally Posted by Madness

Oh, but it does. When you're privately importing from a US based online retailer you're enjoying the benefits of buying from someone who's selling in a market 700 times that of N.Z.

Again, the retailers don't have to stock bobbins, or parts, oil, or even open their doors. They can all close up shop tomorrow & we'll all be better off for it, right?

God, I love America.

Thank you, I love America too. Too bad these shops don't wise up and start their online business too. You have Kim Dotcom living here, you have the internet, use it. You have the same exact selling market as anywhere in the world. Just stubborn like a jack ass to use it. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

**Digitdion** · 10th February 2013, 18:59

Originally Posted by Madness

Oh, but it does. When you're privately importing from a US based online retailer you're enjoying the benefits of buying from someone who's selling in a market 700 times that of N.Z.

Again, the retailers don't have to stock bobbins, or parts, oil, or even open their doors. They can all close up shop tomorrow & we'll all be better off for it, right?

God, I love America.

The wholesaler buys the goods from the manufacturer who is selling in a market way bigger than 700 times bigger than NZ. So why are prices so high here for a lot of bike stuff? Yes , I do understand economies of scale. But there is more to it than that.

**Digitdion** · 10th February 2013, 19:02

Originally Posted by Madness

I hate to drop this on you, Princess, but I have already achieved my goal. People are discussing the other side of the equation, beyond the "I just saved $4.95" and those (not all) with sufficient intellect are thinking about the issue, if nothing else.

And as for the swearing & cursing, I don't mind that as much as a false, unproven accusation of hypocrisy. Each to their own though, eh?

Twat.

Has anyone in this thread saved only $4.95 when buying from overseas? It's more like $495.

**Digitdion** · 10th February 2013, 19:05

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

That is a generalised accusation that I for one object to. Youve done your homework very thoroughly on this have you?

So it is just because of economies of scale? What's your thoughts Robert? I fully respect what you have to say on this. Just no respect for madness!

**Madness** · 10th February 2013, 19:08

Originally Posted by wasiler

Thank you, I love America too. Too bad these shops don't wise up and start their online business too. You have Kim Dotcom living here, you have the internet, use it. You have the same exact selling market as anywhere in the world. Just stubborn like a jack ass to use it. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

I was joking, but I wouldn't expect you to have gotten that. Yes, we have Kim Dotcom here but it's not all rosy; You're here after all.