eBay rocks

**Digitdion** · 10th February 2013, 19:41

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

That is one of the biggies yes, in fact maybe 75% of the reason. But Id need to be typing for half the night to quantify all the other factors. At least all the ones that I can think of. As there are so may on here that are so blind they cannot see I really dont know if Ive got the stomach for it. Im going to watch my locally purchased flatscreen and pretend that there actually isnt a huge problem in NZ with businesses going under and people losing their jobs! The solutions to what is a HUGE problem are not straightforward.
Please understand that Im not being an apologist for huge price discepancies, I can see all sides of the story.

Yes it is very complicated Robert.

**Madness** · 10th February 2013, 19:45

Originally Posted by bogan

Yeh I guess it comes down to exactly how much being a small market costs, I struggle to see why that cost should be high enough to make private import worth it (with the extra link in the chain, and shipping costs), but it does seem like that is the most in detail answer we can get to.

The way I see it is that (within reason) it's the price for living in paradise. Unless of course you're a parasite who comes here from overseas then privately imports as much product as they can because the local retailers are all filthy rich, swindling rip-off merchants.

How much is the price we should have to pay to live in paradise? That's up to you in this context, innit?

Night girls, I've got a date with my bike & some bugs that need killing.

**speeding_ant** · 10th February 2013, 19:46

The average consumer doesn't give two rats nickles about economies of scale, they just see two prices and click on the cheapest one.

It's happening all around the world - NZ is unfortunately so small that many businesses are pushing shit uphill. It's difficult to be competitive when your target market is a tiny percentage of the population.

I understand some of the costs of business, and how much hard work it is to get things on the shelf. Not to mention selling it. Hence, I spend locally for the majority of my purchases. If only the majority of New Zealanders weren't on the line of poverty to give a crap.

Over it - we need more jobs.

**Madness** · 10th February 2013, 19:48

Originally Posted by speeding_ant

Over it - we need more jobs.

And the best way to generate thise jobs is by keeping as many Kiwi dollars in the local economy. Thanks for your post, it's made the evening of dealing with fuckwits worth it.

**speeding_ant** · 10th February 2013, 19:53

Originally Posted by Madness

And the best way to generate thise jobs is by keeping as many Kiwi dollars in the local economy. Thanks for your post, it's made the evening of dealing with fuckwits worth it.

Oh fuck off, not everything is retail

you need to think about the bigger picture. How many large businesses have you seen make absolutely stupid decisions, ruining jobs for hundreds of people. Your rant about motorbike shops is a drop in the bucket.

It sounds like you need to live with less money for a while. Maybe you'll gain some perspective.

**bogan** · 10th February 2013, 19:56

Originally Posted by Madness

And the best way to generate thise jobs is by keeping as many Kiwi dollars in the local economy. Thanks for your post, it's made the evening of dealing with fuckwits worth it.

Unless its just blatant gouging by the supplier, in which case either way is funneling profits overseas, so it might actually be better for the local economy to save buy importing, and spend the rest on lattes or strippers. I dunno, across the spectrum some would fall into either side I guess.

**Madness** · 10th February 2013, 20:00

Originally Posted by speeding_ant

Oh fuck off, not everything is retail

you need to think about the bigger picture. How many large businesses have you seen make absolutely stupid decisions, ruining jobs for hundreds of people. Your rant about motorbike shops is a drop in the bucket.

It sounds like you need to live with less money for a while. Maybe you'll gain some perspective.

The motorbike shops being a drop in the bucket is my point exactly you dumb fuck.

And by the way you need to stop making stupid assumptions about the personal circumstances of others. Damn, I thought you had half a clue there for a minute. Go join the rest of the fuckwits over there.

**Madness** · 10th February 2013, 20:02

Originally Posted by bogan

Unless its just blatant gouging by the supplier, in which case either way is funneling profits overseas, so it might actually be better for the local economy to save buy importing, and spend the rest on lattes or strippers. I dunno, across the spectrum some would fall into either side I guess.

I don't think many wholesalers in the local motorcycle accessory market are multi-nationals, or even overseas owned. I've heard the latte argument before, way too simplistic in my opinion. Cunts will find a way to privately import a daily latte

**speeding_ant** · 10th February 2013, 20:04

Originally Posted by Madness

The motorbike shops being a drop in the bucket is my point exactly you dumb fuck.

And by the way you need to stop making stupid assumptions about the personal circumstances of others. Damn, I thought you had half a clue there for a minute. Go join the rest of the fuckwits over there.

Your points have been shadowed by the fact that you've been throwing abuse at anyone with a different opinion.

I stopped listening to your points quite a while ago.

**Madness** · 10th February 2013, 20:04

Originally Posted by Digitdion

And I still believe you are a hypocrite.

And I believe you're full of shit. There is one major difference though; I can back it up, can you?

**Madness** · 10th February 2013, 20:05

Originally Posted by speeding_ant

Your points have been shadowed by the fact that you've been throwing abuse at anyone with a different opinion.

I stopped listening to your points quite a while ago.

Doesn't bother me at all, Princess. Harden the fuck up, eh?

**speeding_ant** · 10th February 2013, 20:06

Originally Posted by Madness

Doesn't bother me at all, Princess. Harden the fuck up, eh?

Tell that to the retailers

**bogan** · 10th February 2013, 20:06

Originally Posted by Madness

I don't think many wholesalers in the local motorcycle accessory market are multi-nationals, or even overseas owned. I've heard the latte argument before, way too simplistic in my opinion. Cunts will find a way to privately import a daily latte

Yeh, it does rely on NZ having something worth buying, but of course if we don't have that, its not looking good regardless of what the bike industry is doing.

Well I think that was a reasonably constructive discussion

time for other things.