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    It's easy to feel pressured into riding outside your ability when you're with people who you don't really know and when you don't have the confidence to "own" your limits. New riders often take upon themselves huge pressures to "do like everyone else is" either unaware that they lack the skills to do so, or acutely aware of this but afraid to highlight their inexperience.

    While I'm not suggesting we all have the touchy feelies in every non-solo ride we do, there needs to be some degree or level of understanding between ride participants whereby "riding our own ride" is not looked down on. Either make it clear that the ride is for more experienced riders and that less experienced riders might want to give it a miss this time round, or be prepared to ride alongside that newbie and allow them the extra time/space required by them. (Or where there is a distinct range of hp between participating vehicles and those on the gruntier bikes just take off, oblivious to not-so-powerful steeds, which simply struggle to stay within cooee.)

    I would definitely recommend that newer riders either do mostly solo riding OR rides with very small groups of trusted friends who will look out for their best riding interests. Pushing the limits is part of progress, but some take longer than others to advance their skills and shouldn't be made to feel that they're somehow less worthy of being on the road. It's easy for riders who have been doing it for many many years (reactions and reflexes are second nature) to come across as quite intimidating - especially some of the posts to be read in various threads around here. As long as there are posts like Mom's and other members here who champion the cause of individuality there is at least some balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosslady View Post
    can you hook some up to my bike to make me go faster? weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    GN400's Were built ...
    The Dougcati 589SS is getting built, for the GN-giggles
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    What is this thinking?

    How do we stop this insane desire to friggen kill ourselves because we dont have the skills, BUT, we are made to feel we HAVE to keep up?

    When did it become OK to have thrown your bike down ( and walked away ) acceptable and a right of some sort of passage?

    Who the hell thinks it ok to encourage our new riders to think they HAVE to "keep up".

    What is wrong with encouraging them to to ride their own ride, within their abilities, while assuring them they are safe to ride their own ride and NO ONE will offer a hurry up. On the contrary they will be congratulated on how well they are riding, with maybe the odd pointer on looking ahead


    Nobody should be made to feel they have to keep up. EVER!

    Damn... lol I can never keep up with Boman... so I ride my own ride... have too, no choice...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Afuckingmen.
    Katman agrees end of topic!

    A lot of this depends on the person themselves. I ride my own ride and never outside of my comfort zone. Probably one of the best things one can learn is to not ride outside their limits.

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    I'm all about riding at your own pace. But I've explained this to others I've ridden with and a few have crashed regardless. I felt guilty despite telling them otherwise. Now I only ride with those I trust.

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    for some reason I am usually at the front.. but I dont expect people to keep up with me.. and I dont expect to be able to appease some people's need for speed.

    I'll keep an eye out and make sure we stop and wait for peoples... if we're going for a balls out, undie stainer, there wont be any "less able" riders along.. hell.. I should be the least able rider.. that way we're all good
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    The bike infront has the GPS

    On a serious (ish) note, when I was riding a Scorpio/ FXR150, "keeping up" was not even an option if you know what I'm saying.

    Now I ride a 10, I'm glad I taught myself the "individualism" to ride my own ride. Some people ride faster than me on smaller bikes and it's all good. I enjoy my ride.


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    I certainly dont feel the need to keep up with the fast guys on a road ride. No way that you should be exploring your limits on the road either. Gotta love the guys at the pub that are so proud of there lack of chicken strips and the toes of their boots worn through. Makes me cringe watching those guys riding

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPPA View Post
    I certainly dont feel the need to keep up with the fast guys on a road ride. No way that you should be exploring your limits on the road either. Gotta love the guys at the pub that are so proud of there lack of chicken strips and the toes of their boots worn through. Makes me cringe watching those guys riding
    My favourite is a local-ish chap whom always follows me down one of my favourite roads, I don't ride fast at all, and he beats the living shit out of his Harley-of-some-sort (some big block whale) and then grins at me and tells me "told ya a Harley can keep up with your silly crotch rockets"
    There's no way in hell I'm going to actually put on a real pace because I worry he'll bin it while scraping it across two lanes.

    Might 'ave to tell him to take it a bit easy next time? Or destroy him, like a KB warrior

    Or, get him an XR1200 so he can legitimately own me
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Indeed. I may be a muppet, but it poses a question
    What should one do, pull over and let the fellow pass? Keep going at my beige pace? Essentially it's not my fault if somebody who is somehow a worse rider than me crashes
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Hand on cock much?
    Not the answer Katman. Everyone knows I'm a knob, and anyone who rides with me knows I am genuinely not fast, I have a pace I like and I stick to it.
    What would be a good thing to do when somebody is following you dangerously? Fits in to this thread quite well and you are very good at safety advice

    Or have you no useful advice?
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    What would be a good thing to do when somebody is following you dangerously?
    Let them pass or take your hand off your cock and ignore them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Let them pass or take your hand off your cock and ignore them.
    Jolly good, I'll pull over next time I meet him.

    I'll keep my hand wrapped tightly around the little bugger, I'm on KB and that's all we do here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    Jolly good, I'll pull over next time I meet him.

    I'll keep my hand wrapped tightly around the little bugger, I'm on KB and that's all we do here.
    See, that wasn't hard now, was it?

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