"Restorative justice"

[mashman]

So I don't buy this bullshit about character - I think it's cronyism, not a good judgement of character, that's behind this. I think he's a manipulative little lying piece of crap. Given that there's been a spate of thefts from around the university over the past year, you'd think they'd be more concerned about it and start looking at the other thefts too.

You mean the establishment and the caretaker are in cahoots? Anyway, good luck with your quest.

[Road kill]

I still say shoot em' in the knee.

An hell yeah my stuff "is" more important to me than some thieving cunts knee,,I worked for all of it an I ain't given nothing away.

Come the revolution ?

Fuckers better come very well armed.

[awa355]

You think the crims get away with it and are untouchable ???

Do any of you happen to know who is the longest serving prisoner in our jails and how long he has been locked up for (That gives you a clue - it's not someone in Arohata.)

And who is our longest serving prisoner convicted of murder? (Yeah - they are not the same thing ...)

Do you really believe what you read in the newspapers ???

And they are both honkys. Crims come in all shades.

[cskadizzy]

You mean the establishment and the caretaker are in cahoots? Anyway, good luck with your quest.

Not in cahoots as such. I think this just reveals a level of barely concealed incompetence, cronyism and a lack of due process that I know exists in other parts of the university and in other institutions. It's never been as barefacedly put to me as this, though - hey, we know this guy stole your stuff, we know he's got keys to your office and everyone else's office, we know there's a possibility that he's been stealing before but never been caught, but we're going to protect him and fuck you if you think you've got any say about it.

And we're doing that because one person likes him and makes that decision. We're going to hide behind process when we feel like it, but fuck it if we're going to follow one when dealing with you.

Frankly, if the uni is run by cunts like Dix, and if the best they can do for faculty deans is spineless fuckwits like Bauer, they don't deserve me or my research and I don't want to be there. Anyone who has to be around that campus and doesn't want to say anything for their own self-preservation, because they're lazy or don't want to make a fuss can make their own bed and lie in it. See how well this keeping their heads below the fictional parapet works when its their job/stuff/money on the line.

[Akzle]

The Police do their job pretty well under the circumstances but they get heartily fed up with bringing the offender to the courts where there are perfectly adequate punishments available to the Judges, only to hear another faint slap with the proverbial wet bus ticket.

yes and no. i'd suspect 70% of cops are dicks. the other 30% are as you say.

..this is a national average guesstimate.

but yeha. the "justice" system, isn't.

[Edbear]

yes and no. i'd suspect 70% of cops are dicks. the other 30% are as you say.

..this is a national average guesstimate.

but yeha. the "justice" system, isn't.

It does seem that justice is rarely served in the courts. Too often it is either an argument between over-dramatic lawyers on technicalities of law, or a too soft judge claiming precedents for not handing out more meaningful sentences.

If the maximum possible penalties are to be any deterrent the offender must know that if their offending is blatant, they will likely receive the maximum. Restorative justice should be literally that. While death cannot be reversed, theft or damage should be reimbursed by the offender both financially and by working for the victim to restore what was damaged.

Yes, a bit simplistic as I have put it, but the principle should apply.

[cskadizzy]

Convenient update: thieving cuntbubble Arana Kenny was granted a discharge without conviction today. He has to pay $300 to charity.

Lessons learned:

- You're better off not catching the people who commit crimes against you. It'll just end up worse for you.
- The punishment will not relate to the crime: $300 to charity is all well and good, but what charity, and how the fuck is this reparatations to me?
- Judges are cunts until proven otherwise.

[Akzle]

Convenient update: thieving cuntbubble Arana Kenny was granted a discharge without conviction today. He has to pay $300 to charity.

Lessons learned:

- You're better off not catching the people who commit crimes against you. It'll just end up worse for you.
- The punishment will not relate to the crime: $300 to charity is all well and good, but what charity, and how the fuck is this reparatations to me?
- Judges are cunts until proven otherwise.

fuck you, you dont matter. Hes making reparation to society. And youre part me society. So be happy.

[nodrog:Me]

Convenient update: thieving cuntbubble Arana Kenny was granted a discharge without conviction today. He has to pay $300 to charity.

Lessons learned:

- You're better off not catching the people who commit crimes against you. It'll just end up worse for you.
- The punishment will not relate to the crime: $300 to charity is all well and good, but what charity, and how the fuck is this reparatations to me?
- Judges are cunts until proven otherwise.

What sort of motorcyle is a toyota celica, is that like a mazda mx5?

[cskadizzy]

What sort of motorcyle is a toyota celica, is that like a mazda mx5?

Kind of, but my engine will last more than 100k without a rebuild.

[Paul in NZ]

fuck you, you dont matter. Hes making reparation to society. And youre part me society. So be happy.

Hey - you got so excited you forgot to colour your text green....

[Paul in NZ]

Convenient update: thieving cuntbubble Arana Kenny was granted a discharge without conviction today. He has to pay $300 to charity.

Lessons learned:

- You're better off not catching the people who commit crimes against you. It'll just end up worse for you.
- The punishment will not relate to the crime: $300 to charity is all well and good, but what charity, and how the fuck is this reparatations to me?
- Judges are cunts until proven otherwise.

I have to say that you have a point.....

[oldrider]

Worst part of all this is that Judge Hobbs has no accountability for his decision, why has he still got a job?

He can not be held to account, even though I suspect a majority of his employers (the taxpayers) are probably dissatisfied with "his" performance in this matter!

[awa355]

I dont know about Judge Hobbs, but here's an example of an American judge upholding the law.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/america...lf-in-contempt