Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[Madness]

I am allowed to drink while on duty??

I thought it was a pre-requisite.

[Laava]

Cannabis is used "just as a relaxant" by thousands upon thousands of New Zealanders every day, do you agree that they should be labelled as criminals, assuming that a lot of them find alcohol doesn't agree with them also?

As an aside, do you realise the subject of your avatar has been charged with sex offences recently?

I realise it is used as a relaxant and no I don't have a problem with people smoking it as I once did. My point was that I do not believe that you will retain full use of all your faculties when stoned. Also there are a lot of people for whom cannabis has a very negative effect and they should not smoke it.
Oh and HaHa yes the avatar! Have actually thought about changing it.

[Madness]

I realise it is used as a relaxant and no I don't have a problem with people smoking it as I once did. My point was that I do not believe that you will retain full use of all your faculties when stoned. Also there are a lot of people for whom cannabis has a very negative effect and they should not smoke it.

I never said you retain all your faculties when stoned/munted/fucked up & dribbling. It is possible to consume a small quantity and feel a slight relaxing effect and carry on as you would "normally". A couple of wee spots for some is probably the same as half a glass of beer for others. I personally know several people who smoke a joint every day at lunchtime then return to work and carry on alongside non-smokers, something that people such as yourself would probably struggle with (no offence intended).

I agree there are people that can't handle the jandle, I had a friend who fell asleep at the first toke like a light being switched off. She doesn't touch the stuff seeing as she's got half a brain but there will always be fuckwits who persist to misuse drugs/alcohol/junk food, whatever and I disagree that these people should make criminals of those who use the substance sensibly and to their betterment.

[Edbear]

I never said you retain all your faculties when stoned/munted/fucked up & dribbling. It is possible to consume a small quantity and feel a slight relaxing effect and carry on as you would "normally". A couple of wee spots for some is probably the same as half a glass of beer for others. I personally know several people who smoke a joint every day at lunchtime then return to work and carry on alongside non-smokers, something that people such as yourself would probably struggle with (no offence intended).

I agree there are people that can't handle the jandle, I had a friend who fell asleep at the first toke like a light being switched off. She doesn't touch the stuff seeing as she's got half a brain but there will always be fuckwits who persist to misuse drugs/alcohol/junk food, whatever and I disagree that these people should make criminals of those who use the substance sensibly and to their betterment.

The same argument comes up with alcohol and speeding. Who judges whether you are in full control and capable? What you say implies there should be no law and everyone decides for themselves what is safe and whether they are affected or not.

You say you know how you are affected or whether you are so should everyone else have the same right?

[Madness]

The same argument comes up with alcohol and speeding. Who judges whether you are in full control and capable? What you say implies there should be no law and everyone decides for themselves what is safe and whether they are affected or not.

You say you know how you are affected or whether you are so should everyone else have the same right?

There are laws in this country already that cover driving a motor vehicle while impaired by drugs and I see no reason why these need to change with my limited knowledge on this area of the law. If you're driving like a cock you're likely to get pulled up, regardless of wether you're stoned or not. If you cause an accident & harm others or their property you deserve the consequences that are coming your way and if you caused harm whilst being under the influence at the time you deserve to be punished even more.

This discussion isn't about driving or speeding after having consumed cannabis though, is it Ed? It's about the stupid bitch who snitched on her parents for having a couple of plants growing in their garden which in all likleyhood were to be consumed by adults as a relaxant in the privacy & security of their own home. Currently if you're in posession of Cannabis sitting on your couch in your living room with the doors, windows & curtains closed you're a fucking criminal, regardless of how incapacitated you may or not be. It is wrong,plain & simple and the girl is a cunt.

You're being very elusive as usual too Ed. Have you smoked Cannabis before, ever?

[scumdog]

This discussion isn't about driving or speeding after having consumed cannabis though, is it Ed? It's about the stupid bitch who snitched on her parents for having a couple of plants growing in their garden which in all likleyhood were to be consumed by adults as a relaxant in the privacy & security of their own home. Currently if you're in posession of Cannabis sitting on your couch in your living room with the doors, windows & curtains closed you're a fucking criminal, regardless of how incapacitated you may or not be. It is wrong,plain & simple and the girl is a cunt.

Me mate felt the same when his snotty-spotty oik of a step-son dobbed him in for having a couple of SKS rifles and a M-16....and he'd never shot a living thing with them either, sheesh!

[Madness]

Me mate felt the same when his snotty-spotty oik of a step-son dobbed him in for having a couple of SKS rifles and a M-16....and he'd never shot a living thing with them either, sheesh!

You obviously have some dodgy mates then Scummy. Prey tell, is he a copper too?

Guns are designed and manufactured primarily to maim and kill. Are you suggesting Cannabis fits this bill also? Are you perhaps suggesting that having posession of either an SKS or an M-16 can offer the benefits of feeling relaxed or enlightened or possibly reduces the effects of pain, nausea etc?

No, I thought not.

How many JD's have you consumed so far tonight?

[Usarka]

Me mate felt the same when his snotty-spotty oik of a step-son dobbed him in for having a couple of SKS rifles and a M-16....and he'd never shot a living thing with them either, sheesh!

SKS's aren't illegal.

[Madness]

SKS's aren't illegal.

Therefore one must assume that Scummy's mate didn't hold a Firearms Licence. What a winner!

[FJRider]

I never said you retain all your faculties when stoned/munted/fucked up & dribbling. It is possible to consume a small quantity and feel a slight relaxing effect and carry on as you would "normally". A couple of wee spots for some is probably the same as half a glass of beer for others. I personally know several people who smoke a joint every day at lunchtime then return to work and carry on alongside non-smokers, something that people such as yourself would probably struggle with (no offence intended).

I agree there are people that can't handle the jandle, I had a friend who fell asleep at the first toke like a light being switched off. She doesn't touch the stuff seeing as she's got half a brain but there will always be fuckwits who persist to misuse drugs/alcohol/junk food, whatever and I disagree that these people should make criminals of those who use the substance sensibly and to their betterment.

All that ... IF ... based on decisions and feelings YOU made/have when you are stoned .... then the intentional breaking of known existing laws ... can neither be seen as sensible, or for your betterment.

As far as "Making criminals" of those that smoke ... there are more serious fines and jail sentences for people convicted of some traffic offenses ... than those prosecuted under the "misuse of drugs act 1975" for possession of drugs/implements (etc).

[FJRider]

Are you perhaps suggesting that having posession of either an SKS or an M-16 can offer the benefits of feeling relaxed or enlightened or possibly reduces the effects of pain, nausea etc?

That would depend entirely on who you shoot ...

[Madness]

All that ... IF ... based on decisions and feelings YOU made/have when you are stoned .... then the intentional breaking of known existing laws ... can neither be seen as sensible, or for your betterment.

I've had some difficulty grasping your point and wonder if this is another one of your posts for the sake of posting but I'll give it my best shot. Breaking the law by consuming Cannabis is a by-product of having made the decision to do so. People don't consume Cannabis purely because they want to break the law. People I know who consume Cannabis get enjoyment from doing so and they do not intefere or harm others or the property of others. There is no victim.

As far as "Making criminals" of those that smoke ... there are more serious fines and jail sentences for people convicted of some traffic offenses ... than those prosecuted under the "misuse of drugs act 1975" for possession of drugs/implements (etc).

Penalties for traffic offences should carry harsher penalties than for posession of Cannabis or utensils (which shouldn't carry a penalty at all IMO). Breaking the traffic laws brings a serious chance of causing harm to others and their property, there will likely be an innocent victim.

Like I said, I gave it my best shot. Feel free to clarify your point, if indeed there was one.

[scissorhands]

True Tiger bro

And so the shootout at the KB corral continued, the booze gang had numbers and badges, but the weed gang were also hungry for some some of the pie.

Jesus and Mohammed, alcohol and cannabis

[Madness]

That would depend entirely on who you shoot ...

You're right (Boris comes to mind) but I was referring to posession, which was the offence Scummy's mate had apparently commited.

[Madness]

True Tiger bro

And so the shootout at the KB corral continued, the booze gang had numbers and badges, but the weed gang were also hungry for some some of the pie.

Jesus and Mohammed, alcohol and cannabis

Don't forget Jehova, wouldn't want Ed to feel left out.