Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[gwigs]

What a terrible drug...

[Madness]

Eds home movie

Paranoia
Americas children are under siege
From an evil so powerful
So frightful
So mindnumbingly dangerous
Feel the paranoia
What can make sex crazed zombies of us all?
What can force us to kill?
What is the most despicable danger facing our children today?

RELIGION!

[mashman]

Absolutely. You need to be discreet. I didn't say it would be easy! But i know people who do it and fly under the radar. If you pay me enough money I will tell you where their gardens are.
Very disappointed in your continually posting those degrading pictures. I bet you have used them all up by now.

heh... you know of criminals and haven't ripped up their plants !

I wave her private parts in your general direction

[gwigs]

Why marijuana is illegal, How it became illegal

[Madness]

This documentary shows the beliefs of the likes of Ed & others to be erroneous. Harvard Professors must be idiots too, eh Ed?

It's long, you might want to roll a few up before you hit play. Yes, it's a repost - sue me.

[blue rider]

That is really the problem the lawmakers face isn't it? We see the results of personal choice everywhere, in the cemeteries and hospitals, overloading the public health system.

It seems that most people have little or no self control and need saving from themselves. Witness obesity, diabetes, alcoholism, recidivist drink drivers, drug addicts etc. You can't legislate common sense, you can only try to control the effects of senselessness. For every person who has and exercises common sense and self control you seem to have a million who can't or won't.

So while I won't use mind altering substances myself, I am very reluctant to support freeing up the law on Cannabis, especially if some of the proponents here are anything to go by. If they were so interested in the possible health benefits of it they would not argue as they do. Very few seem to want to admit they are only interested in smoking it to get high and couldn't care less about anyone or anything else to do with it.

at the end of our lifes we die. it matters not if one is a good fearing tetotalling obedient little somone or if someone is a smoker/drinker/libertarian (in the french sense of things)...at the end of our lifes we die.

I repeat again, i don't care if one believes in jehova, the flying spaghetti monster or the bearded sky fairy....it matters only if that believe start infringing in my personal life.
I don't care if someone shags a man, a women or both .....it matters only if they start infringing in my personal life.
I don't care if someone smokes weed, or snorts a line or makes some magic tea.....it matters only if you start infringing in my personal life.

I could go on forever....if the personal choices do not harm others and society at large, government should butt the feck out and do proper government business..i.e. create a school system affordable for all children regardless of the earning abilitys of their parents, go create good roads regardless of the location in the country, create a health care system the not only treats symtoms but tries to eradicate the disease, upheld a defense of the country and a law enforcment agencuy that is populated by people wishing to serve the community instead of just hoping to get a job with good benefits (yes I have absolutly no respect for people in uniform, excluding nurses and firefighters.)

Drug laws as they are enforced to day are not ridding us of crime, it only makes criminals out of the user. If after having a war on drugs for over 40 years (the phrase was coined by Nixon of all people) and we haven't won yet, surely we are not doing it right.


to make this all short.....most people don't need saving, but an awful lot of people need to stop prostelyzing, be it god, drugs, food or speed.

[FJRider]

If a copper believes that someone is under the influence of say P, or precription drugs or coke or any other drug, surely they have an option to get these drivers out of their car and to a hospital..../ police station for testing.
I am all for decriminalising the use and simply possesion for own use, however i don't think that driving while under the influence of anything should be legal at all. and I include alcohol.

They have that option now. And do. The hurdle they have is the recognition of a standardized roadside test allowed in legislation. (with no loopholes)

Driving under the influence of Alcohol or drugs will STILL be illegal if the drug is decriminalized. No word on any possible minimum limit then ... as it is 0 % now (being illegal and all that)

[Fergus]

you do have high expectations.

I just wanted to learn the difference between 'proven scientific fact' and regular scientific fact.



If you want to avoid harm to others then meth is a much better choice than pot



Where are all the self righteous P fiends fighting for their favourite drug to be decriminalised?

[Madness]

Where are all the self righteous P fiends fighting for their favourite drug to be decriminalised?

Serious question: Who the fuck are you exactly?

[Fergus]

A kiwi biker
What else would you like to know?

[blue rider]

I just wanted to learn the difference between 'proven scientific fact' and regular scientific fact.



If you want to avoid harm to others then meth is a much better choice than pot


Where are all the self righteous P fiends fighting for their favourite drug to be decriminalised?

(image removed, cause I might get an infraction for excessive re-posting of images)


personally dont give a flying fuck about P or anything else but if you include a pretty graph you should include, method, findings , funding and summary.

Background
Proper assessment of the harms caused by the misuse of drugs can inform policy makers in health, policing, and social care. We aimed to apply multicriteria decision analysis (MCDA) modelling to a range of drug harms in the UK.
Methods
Members of the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs, including two invited specialists, met in a 1-day interactive workshop to score 20 drugs on 16 criteria: nine related to the harms that a drug produces in the individual and seven to the harms to others. Drugs were scored out of 100 points, and the criteria were weighted to indicate their relative importance.
Findings
MCDA modelling showed that heroin, crack cocaine, and metamfetamine were the most harmful drugs to individuals (part scores 34, 37, and 32, respectively), whereas alcohol, heroin, and crack cocaine were the most harmful to others (46, 21, and 17, respectively). Overall, alcohol was the most harmful drug (overall harm score 72), with heroin (55) and crack cocaine (54) in second and third places.
Interpretation
These findings lend support to previous work assessing drug harms, and show how the improved scoring and weighting approach of MCDA increases the differentiation between the most and least harmful drugs. However, the findings correlate poorly with present UK drug classification, which is not based simply on considerations of harm.
Funding
Centre for Crime and Justice Studies (UK).


and just for good measure include a link
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...462-6/fulltext


and a more specific graph as to where the damage occurs and why....

[SMOKEU]

If they were so interested in the possible health benefits of it they would not argue as they do. Very few seem to want to admit they are only interested in smoking it to get high and couldn't care less about anyone or anything else to do with it.

With people like you around, people who can see sense have to argue their case somehow. You haven't been able to provide any convincing evidence to state why cannabis should be illegal in the first place either.

[mashman]

With people like you around, people who can see sense have to argue their case somehow. You haven't been able to provide any convincing evidence to state why cannabis should be illegal in the first place either.

Fascists only need one side of an argument and as long as that side is erring on the side of caution, it will be enforced by any and all means and you and I will become a criminal by their choice.

[blue rider]

and because this thread lacks music

[PrincessBandit]

What did I miss? Where did all the lesbians come from in this thread?