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    http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald...s-wreck-family

    Legal drugs wreck family
    'I just hope one of them does not end up in a box'
    Last updated 05:00 13/04/2013

    Sue Eade, of Timaru, knows only too well how legal highs can wreck a family. Her two sons have used the legal substance K2 with disastrous consequences.
    MYTCHALL BRANSGROVE
    SHE UNDERSTANDS: Sue Eade, of Timaru, knows only too well how legal highs can wreck a family. Her two sons have used the legal substance K2 with disastrous consequences.

    Timaru woman Sue Eade fears she will bury one of her sons.

    That fear comes from seeing what legal highs have done to them and to her family. And now she wants to set up a support group to help other families affected by the drugs.

    Her sons, aged 15 and 20, began using the legal high K2 last year. Since then she has seen the elder lose his dairy farm job as he was no longer reliable. This week she got the call to collect the 15-year-old from school as he was high on the legal drug.

    She does not blame the employer or the school for the steps they took. She does blame the storeowners selling the synthetic cannabis.

    "I bet they are not using it themselves or letting their children use it," she says of the store owners.

    "They are hypocrites. They have no idea what it is doing. It does not matter whether it is legal or not.

    "It is wrecking families," she said, explaining how her sons had taken items from the house to get cash to buy the highs.

    "You go to get something and it is gone. I've had to put a lock on my (bedroom) door."

    Last month the police called. The 15-year-old had been found comatose in Marchwiel Park.

    The "mate" he had been smoking K2 with had left him there. Someone else found him and called the police. He was taken to hospital.

    Medical staff at the hospital made it clear they were seeing similar cases "on a daily basis".

    "He couldn't even walk. It took a nurse, my friend, and me, to get him into my vehicle."

    Miss Eade spent the night checking him every hour, making sure he was in the recovery position in case he vomited and choked to death.

    At least she knew where he was that night.

    And this was a boy who was a top student in his first two years at high school. Earlier this year his science teacher told Miss Eade her son was in the top 1 per cent of students in that subject.

    As of last Monday he is no longer welcome at school. He will not be allowed back until he tests clean. But he is not interested.

    Attempts to reason with her sons have failed.

    She has a very personal reason for fearing for her boys. Miss Eade understands the legal highs can cause kidney damage. She has hereditary kidney disease.

    "I go through agony every day," she says of her condition, but even seeing their mother in such a state has not been enough to dissuade her boys from using.

    "I just hope one of them does not end up in a box."

    The legal highs have even affected her 11-year-old daughter. She used to love her big brothers. Now she hates them because of what they have done and the way they act. "It just tears you apart."

    What the future holds for her sons, for her family, she does not know. But she does hope she can support other families who find themselves in similar situations. She has posted a link on the Facebook page Stop Legal Highs, inviting others to make contact.

    Only those living through the hell the legal highs can cause can really understand, she says.



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    Mayor: Boycott last dope dairies
    RHONDA MARKBY
    Last updated 05:00 13/04/2013


    An angry mayor is calling on the Timaru community to boycott three dairies which are still selling legal highs.

    Mayor Janie Annear was ropeable to learn On the Spot at the corner of Trafalgar and Evans streets, Corner Convenience on Arthur St and the Wai-iti Rd Food Market were still selling the synthetic highs.

    "All three have lied to me on more than one occasion. I am extremely disappointed and incredibly sad that they continue to sell poison in our community, to our young people. They know these are extremely dangerous and highly addictive."

    The shopkeepers knew sales would become illegal when the Psychoactive Substances Bill got through parliament, and were "totally driven by profit", she said.

    "Obviously these dairies don't feel good about it as they are lying. If you care about our young people you should not reward these people who know what they are doing is wrong and dangerous. . . . I am saying don't shop at those dairies. I will not be shopping at those dairies."

    Mrs Annear had been sent catalogue that showed items, including hookah pipes for smoking synthetic highs, and she feared they would be next on sale.

    Mrs Annear said it was up to the community to make a stand.

    "I have heard of kids [in Timaru aged under 18] who are now addicted, and they reckon you only have to smoke it on three occasions. They are now supporting $20 to $40 a day habits.

    "Once they have finished stealing from their parents, where are they going to get the money to continue this habit?"

    Mrs Annear said people rang her all the time about the legal highs issue.

    "I have probably had 10 people approach me and they are saying it is just the most insidious situation and our young kids are in a situation of extreme risk."

    She was concerned that the long-term effects of the legal highs were not known yet. Health professionals felt that because young people's brains were still developing, they risked long-term psychosis.

    Dairies in Geraldine and Pleasant Point have never stocked the legal highs. A Temuka dairy that had, was no longer doing so.

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    Sobering reading for a Sunday morning.

    Sadly, those that need to see, will remain blind.
    Those that need to hear, will remain deaf.

    The message cannot ever get through to those who do not want to change.
    The potters will smoke, the alkies will drink, they see no need to change, they see no way to change.
    Instead, they would like to convince the world to join them so they will not be alone in their pain, for pain is all that can be garnered from the use of alcohol and drugs.
    (To the excess, if one wishes to take me literally)

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackdog View Post
    Whoops. Must'ave been pissed again.
    Hmmm... "Hello, my name is Blackdog and I'm a...."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genie View Post
    Sobering reading for a Sunday morning.

    Sadly, those that need to see, will remain blind.
    Those that need to hear, will remain deaf.

    The message cannot ever get through to those who do not want to change.
    The potters will smoke, the alkies will drink, they see no need to change, they see no way to change.
    Instead, they would like to convince the world to join them so they will not be alone in their pain, for pain is all that can be garnered from the use of alcohol and drugs.
    (To the excess, if one wishes to take me literally)
    I also noted she blamed the shops that sell it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genie View Post
    Sobering reading for a Sunday morning.

    Sadly, those that need to see, will remain blind.
    Those that need to hear, will remain deaf.

    The message cannot ever get through to those who do not want to change.
    The potters will smoke, the alkies will drink, they see no need to change, they see no way to change.
    Instead, they would like to convince the world to join them so they will not be alone in their pain, for pain is all that can be garnered from the use of alcohol and drugs.
    (To the excess, if one wishes to take me literally)
    And those people generally fall into one of two camps: (1) "it will never happen to me" (remember that childish reasoning, right up there with the other one of "I can't see you therefore you can't see me), or (2) "I don't give a furry fat rat's arse what you think because it's my life, you can't tell me what to do and it' s none of your business anyway".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    I also noted she blamed the shops that sell it...
    Would she blame a liquor store if her son purchased a bottle of Vodka and skulled it in one go and died? probly not. Stupid woman.
    I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    I also noted she blamed the shops that sell it...
    Businesses are only ever interested in the bottom line of profit. Doesn't matter what it is they're selling; legal or not, harmful or not. They rely on people needing their hit in order to make their $ and profit. Not unlike other sectors of society whose only interest is their own material gain at the expense of other peoples' misery, pain and heartache.

    Those who can handle their grog, smokes etc would feel aggrieved if their source was stopped on account of those who can't. Personal choice is a double edged sword.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Hmmm... "Hello, my name is Blackdog and I'm a...."
    Homo.

    Nah, he's a good cunt really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post

    "I have heard of kids [in Timaru aged under 18] who are now addicted, and they reckon you only have to smoke it on three occasions. They are now supporting $20 to $40 a day habits.
    People need to learn to take some fucking responsibility for their actions. The parents who wank on about this crap are only teaching their kids that there's no need for personal responsibility, then they wonder why they turn out so fucked up.

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    The lady in the article does however forget to mentions how she is lucky that her sons are not being criminalised by the use of K2. Which means she could/can go to see a doctor and have the addiction of her sons treated as a medical issue and not treated as a criminal issue.

    The big omission in the article is why do her boys feel the need to "escape" the real world....consuming any mind altering substance to the point of loosing ones job, and being suspended from school, points to larger issues.

    If it would not be K2, these geezers would drink. She is lucky that it is K2 and it is still legal, instead of it being P and her boys going to the local Gang for their shopping.
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    Its disappointing no one differentiates between a safe substance and a unsafe one.

    None of my weed smoking friends would go near the legal alternative, because it is very harmful

    Yet, none of the above do gooders tsk tsking away.....are able to perceive this fact due to their own emotive bias.

    It appears cannabis and synthetic cannabis is the same thing to the uninformed and those biased to make incorrect connections based on a name only.

    Synthetic cannabis is not cannabis at all. It is very harmful. The real thing which is illegal, is safe

    Can no one see the hypocrisy of the state and those pushing their anti cannabis barrows, based on the stories of woe around the unsafe legal version sold in shops?

    I'm disappointed at the lack of logic. I guess thats why the world is going down the gurgler.... lack of good thinking.

    Regarding the woman in the article, rather than looking within for her sons behaviours she is shifting blame. Bit like those comments above

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue rider View Post

    If it would not be K2, these geezers would drink. She is lucky that it is K2 and it is still legal, instead of it being P and her boys going to the local Gang for their shopping.
    P would be safer for their body and mind than synthetic highs, and would leave less damage once stopped.

    My doctor wants me to go on amphetamine cause of ADHD......

    no one can think right here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
    P would be safer for their body and mind than synthetic highs, and would leave less damage once stopped.

    My doctor wants me to go on amphetamine cause of ADHD......

    no one can think right here?
    you missed the point mate, being

    the mother of the 15 year old can seek health advise without fearing that coopers will show up on the doorstep for a bit of a chat and a look around.


    This is the one big difference between legal and not legal.


    Any substance if consumed without moderation and consideration can be harmful. Also what works for you might raise paranoia in someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Funnily enough it is only on KB and only a very few here who seem to feel afflicted by my presence. Maybe it is a self-esteem issue with them?
    More than a few on KB. Its got nothing to do with self eseem, more to do with your bullshit attitude, popped many pills today?

    Ed, nobody cares about your sob story why you don't ride, why don't you go back to one of those other social network sites where you claim to be well respected, cos you just talk a ton of shit here.

    On another note, I threw my Thai High/ K2 stash out the window the other night, not liking the effect it has, won't be going there again.
    Wish I could get away with smoking some real shit. I would tend to agree that even P isn't as bad for you as the legal highs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushu View Post
    More than a few on KB. Its got nothing to do with self eseem, more to do with your bullshit attitude, popped many pills today?

    Ed, nobody cares about your sob story why you don't ride, why don't you go back to one of those other social network sites where you claim to be well respected, cos you just talk a ton of shit here.

    On another note, I threw my Thai High/ K2 stash out the window the other night, not liking the effect it has, won't be going there again.
    Wish I could get away with smoking some real shit. I would tend to agree that even P isn't as bad for you as the legal highs
    Another sad sack who talks in absolutes and claims to speak for everybody...

    You carry on with your addiction to mind altering substances, at least they keep you happy and give you a fulfilling and purposeful life...
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