Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[scissorhands]

Its the parasites in the raw fish roll-mops

[Stirts]

Esp the lesbians! Oooh, lesbians with hats! Could there be such a thing!

We don't need no stinking hats!

2 girls one hat!!

[SMOKEU]

There is no reason to imagine that driving under the effects of cannabis should be treated any different to driving under the effects of alcohol (or prescription drugs for that matter).

Drunk driving is generally much more dangerous than stoned driving. Drunks tend to grossly overestimate their abilities which leads to the inevitable. The opposite usually applies after having a sesh.

enough already!

everyone. just. fuck off this thread. let it go. it's done. you life will not get better from here on in. there is no prize. there is nothing to be gained.

on your deathbed you'll think back and think: "fuck, i wish i hadn't wasted so much of my life on that fucking thrEd" seriously, everyone, go hug the wife and do something good with the evening. and don't come back.

really,
just.
stop.

There's still too many lulz to be had from this thread to kill it.

The Netherlands have some huge social issues to deal with but they're probably not directly related to what you're meaning.

What country doesn't?

2 girls one hat!!

The one with the cup was better.

[Banditbandit]

This thread isn't actually about the effects of cannabis on driving versus the effects on alcohol though, is it Ed?

It's about cannabis law reform.

Funny - I thougth it was about the morality of a girl telling the police of the illaegal activities of her parents and getting them charged with a crime ..

[Banditbandit]

We don't need no stinking hats!

[scissorhands]

Drunk driving is generally much more dangerous than stoned driving. Drunks tend to grossly overestimate their abilities which leads to the inevitable. The opposite usually applies after having a sesh.

QFT Swim has found when his system is free of cannabis, he drives a little faster. His speed only goes up on average maybe 3-5km/hr, but he also finds himself drawn into minor competitive behaviours with other motorists, whereas as a stoner, swim travels slower and safer. Swim said he always waits a while after having a sheesh, before driving, but heavy stoners are used to the effects of cannabis...... and in a manner quite opposite to alcohol in a very important way.............heavy stoners are used to the effects and can drive sooner....... and safer............than a non stoner or newbie.

Bit like giving half a beer to a tee totaller with a nervous dispostion.

Swim said he has seen non cannabis users need to retreat to the bedroom after a couple of light tokes

Swim's mate at the old cannabis club used to smoke 3 grams a day of primo bud, function reasonably quite well, but he was a very big man

[Katman]

Drunk driving is generally much more dangerous than stoned driving. Drunks tend to grossly overestimate their abilities which leads to the inevitable. The opposite usually applies after having a sesh.

Whether it be true or not, forget going down that path. For there to be any hope of seeing a change in the law there will be nothing to be gained from trying to convince anyone that stoned drivers are better than pissed drivers.

Impairment should be treated as impairment - prescription drugs included.

Funny - I thougth it was about the morality of a girl telling the police of the illaegal activities of her parents and getting them charged with a crime ..

Possibly about 70 pages ago.

[oneofsix]

Drunk driving is generally much more dangerous than stoned driving. Drunks tend to grossly overestimate their abilities which leads to the inevitable. The opposite usually applies after having a sesh.

Whether it be true or not, forget going down that path. For there to be any hope of seeing a change in the law there will be nothing to be gained from trying to convince anyone that stoned drivers are better than pissed drivers.

Impairment should be treated as impairment - prescription drugs included.

Sleepy drivers are worse than all the above. Half the issue with the drunk or drugged is that it makes them sleepy. The first half of Katman's last sentence sums it up except I would include sleepiness and anger, even being zoned out, as things that are often not considered as impairments.

[Banditbandit]

[Mushu]

Sleepy drivers are worse than all the above. Half the issue with the drunk or drugged is that it makes them sleepy. The first half of Katman's last sentence sums it up except I would include sleepiness and anger, even being zoned out, as things that are often not considered as impairments.

I have to agree there, anger has a far greater effect on my driving than being stoned (back when I was a heavy user) when angry I tend to speed (more) take a few risks and become quite competitive, although the act of driving tends to calm me down too, but so does the act of smoking weed.

I read a study the other day, it was done in France it can be found on the California norml website (links are a bitch when you use a phone to post), to do with drug and alcohol impared drivers and crash rates, the upshot was that alcohol increases risk of a crash by between 300 and 4000 percent, whereas cannabis increases the risk between 160 and 300 percent, even so, for the purpose of enforcing the laws the rules should be similar between the two. Whatever happened to the saliva swabs they were trialing in Australia, they might be appropriate here, or I would be happy to submit to American style roadside impairment tests

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[Katman]

An interesting article.

http://www.cancer.org/treatment/trea...rals/marijuana

[Banditbandit]

[Brian d marge]

2 girls one hat!!

where is the hat???


Stephen

[FJRider]

where is the hat???


Stephen

There was a hat .. ???

[Usarka]

Ed, what if I went to California and get a prescription for weed. Would you be ok with it then?