I believe in gay marriage

[bogan]

It's not rape if you change the firmware...

[ducatilover]

I have a feeling this has gone off on a tangent

But I think I may use the firmware excuse

[bogan]

I have a feeling this has gone off on a tangent

But I think I may use the firmware excuse

You may have a point there....

...that's what she, or now he, said.

There we go, back on topic, job done

[ducatilover]

You may have a point there....

...that's what she, or now he, said.

There we go, back on topic, job done

Damn it all to buggery eh?

[Oakie]

As for my question, it may be safe to put your money on pedophilia, maybe it has something to do with people from the LGBT community being over represented in kiddy fiddler stats. Yep society is going down the shitter quicker than ever.

Care to provide some verifiable statisitics to support that?

[BoristheBiter]

Well, there's always going to be arseholes on both sides of the fence, the fact of the matter is more people support it than are against it.

!

I think the problem was there was two questions.
1) should gay people be allowed to marry and
2) should they change the definition of the word marriage.

And it all got lumped into the same question.

Makes no difference now anyway.

[Swoop]

Watching the debate on Parliamentary TV last night, I was most impressed with Chris Faafoi's speech.

I think euthanasia is actually fairly close to the mark.

I'm quite surprised this hasn't been enacted already, but from the treasury's point of view (completely devoid of ethical considerations, of course).

Greater savings in the health sector (less beds taken up).
A re-distribution of wealth from the estates of those euthanised.
Helping employment by introducing a new "profession".

Surely a fiscally minded government would follow this path?

[oldrider]

I think the problem was there was two questions.
1) should gay people be allowed to marry and
2) should they change the definition of the word marriage.

And it all got lumped into the same question.

Makes no difference now anyway.

This will fester on and on, IMHO the bill would struggle to survive a referendum and it appears that the politicians are out of synch with the electorate!

Not an opinion on the subject just the outcome of it's progress to date! (the fat lady sings and all that!)

[Hitcher]

There have been times when I have thought that having a husband would be really useful. However I'm not yet convinced that this should be a full-time role.

[Banditbandit]

This will fester on and on, IMHO the bill would struggle to survive a referendum and it appears that the politicians are out of synch with the electorate!

Not an opinion on the subject just the outcome of it's progress to date! (the fat lady sings and all that!)

Naa ... polls show that a majority of kiwis support the bill .. so a referendum is unlikely to change anything ..

Go here http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10873630

This poll on March 26 this year (23 days ago) shows a majority still support gay marriage ... yes the numbers are changing, but the anti-campaigners were in full swing, while the pros only targeted the MPs ... so a more public campaign by the pro group may well see support increase again ..

[SMOKEU]

Fucking liberals corrupting society.

[Katman]

Fucking liberals corrupting society.

And yet you support cannabis law reform?

If you want people to be more open minded about your wishes perhaps you'd better start being a little less close minded about other's wishes.

[SMOKEU]

And yet you support cannabis law reform?

If you want people to be more open minded about your wishes perhaps you'd better start being a little less close minded about others wishes.

I don't really care if fags want to do their "thing" behind closed doors, but encouraging gays to marry is wrong. They've already got civil unions, the human rights act etc, they've got all the rights they could ever need, so why do they need marriage? Marriage is meant to be between a man and a woman, and the morals of society are slipping away very quickly by the left wing propaganda that the sheep swallow hook, line and sinker.

Gays are now going to be allowed to adopt kids. It's pretty fucked up that a kid could have 2 moms or 2 dads. How do you think the kid is going to feel?

[Katman]

I don't really care if fags want to do their "thing" behind closed doors, but encouraging gays to marry is wrong. They've already got civil unions, the human rights act etc, they've got all the rights they could ever need, so why do they need marriage? Marriage is meant to be between a man and a woman, and the morals of society are slipping away very quickly by the left wing propaganda that the sheep swallow hook, line and sinker.

Gays are now going to be allowed to adopt kids. It's pretty fucked up that a kid could have 2 moms or 2 dads. How do you think the kid is going to feel?

Seriously man, you're as fucked in the head as Ed is.

[Banditbandit]

Marriage is meant to be between a man and a woman,

Who says ??? What law of the universe made it so??? Absolutely none - it's a human concept - Change it !!!

Gays are now going to be allowed to adopt kids.

Yeah .. and ???

It's pretty fucked up that a kid could have 2 moms or 2 dads.

Fuck .. they can now when parents remarry ...

How do you think the kid is going to feel?

They'll only feel bad if peopel like you make them feel bad ...