Sidecars?

**wildman** · 18th April 2013, 22:28

Originally Posted by racer40

Our sidecar is ready for Mt Welly this weekend, I s everyone else going ? Chris

I should be there saturday, hoping to break in a new rider and hopefully he doesn't break me

**wildman** · 18th April 2013, 22:30

Originally Posted by cotswold

Looks like another outfit is about to be spawned up here in the smoke, I will keep you posted, it will be made to be reliable rather than a rocketship so we should win every outing

Is it going to be Honda powered

**cotswold** · 19th April 2013, 08:37

Originally Posted by wildman

Is it going to be Honda powered

Eer no, it will be powered by a european motor, the honda is still on the shelf.

**Henk** · 19th April 2013, 09:51

Originally Posted by cotswold

Eer no, it will be powered by a european motor, the honda is still on the shelf.

Euro motor? it's not like sidecars have a reputation for being unreliable as it is.

**Kickaha** · 22nd April 2013, 20:52

Someone needs to get a hold of these guys to add them to the grid

**seymour14** · 22nd April 2013, 21:08

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Someone needs to get a hold of these guys to add them to the grid

My original write up to the Manawatu Standard (which they butchered and cut my comments out) made a remark that the kids who run in the minimoto series would be ideal candidates for moving up to F4 and F5 as a natural progression. The sidecars that they make may even be eligible for our competition too I believe?

Having not learnt my lesson from my first attempt, have now sent my original piece to an independent newspaper in our part of the world for a second attempt. Would be ideal to boost sidecar numbers if these kids could use them in our class. There are quite a few down here.

**wildman** · 22nd April 2013, 21:43

Originally Posted by seymour14

My original write up to the Manawatu Standard (which they butchered and cut my comments out) made a remark that the kids who run in the minimoto series would be ideal candidates for moving up to F4 and F5 as a natural progression. The sidecars that they make may even be eligible for our competition too I believe?

Having not learnt my lesson from my first attempt, have now sent my original piece to an independent newspaper in our part of the world for a second attempt. Would be ideal to boost sidecar numbers if these kids could use them in our class. There are quite a few down here.

NO !!! they look to reliable, they would clean us up. Seriously if they fit in with the rules i have no problem with it. Hey Seymour my sidecar runs under it's own power now and it can keep the chain on, just need to get the dam shifter to work properly, wont downshift past fourth.

**seymour14** · 23rd April 2013, 21:35

Originally Posted by wildman

NO !!! they look to reliable, they would clean us up. Seriously if they fit in with the rules i have no problem with it. Hey Seymour my sidecar runs under it's own power now and it can keep the chain on, just need to get the dam shifter to work properly, wont downshift past fourth.

Those little bikes probably look quicker then what they are, but maybe without a fourth or fifth gear they may stand a chance?

They are all a pack of weightless school kids though, which means they are making the most of what horsepower they have got. Can't wait till we have ourselves a decent sidecar reunion, it's the only time you can swing both ways and still keep your dignity!

**Henk** · 23rd April 2013, 21:55

What's dignity?

I'd be happy if we could get three or four of the local sidecars to turn up regularly to our meetings up here.

**GSVR** · 24th April 2013, 07:41

http://www.feildinghigh.school.nz/Mi...SPECS_2013.pdf

http://www.feildinghigh.school.nz/Minibikes/Plans.htm

**crazy man** · 24th April 2013, 15:53

the feilding boys have been around home . gave them a rule book and there sidcars are in speck. just wish we had a track here to play with them )-; l know more guys keen around here as well

**seymour14** · 24th April 2013, 17:21

Originally Posted by crazy man

the feilding boys have been around home . gave them a rule book and there sidcars are in speck. just wish we had a track here to play with them )-; l know more guys keen around here as well

Everything apart from playing with little boys.

Gets me in trouble most the time.

**cotswold** · 25th April 2013, 12:11

Ok the donor machine is acquired, it is a stinky diesel but has CVT,fuel injection and dual brake operation from the bars so not having to worry about how to mount brake and gear pedals should make it a bit easier.

**Pumba** · 25th April 2013, 20:08

Originally Posted by GSVR

http://www.feildinghigh.school.nz/Mi...SPECS_2013.pdf

http://www.feildinghigh.school.nz/Minibikes/Plans.htm

Cheers for the links, interesting reading, unfortuently no "standard" sidecar plans there. Oh well.

Did get the following from one of the documents on the site that is worth posting.

Hi Roger
I have been thinking!
Sidecar stearing angles.
Head rake angles 22 to 26 degrees
positive trail 0.5 to 0.75 of an inch (10 to 15mm). Contact patch of the wheel on the road to be behind the headstock angle line where it contacts the road.
Sidecar wheel toe in = 0
Vertical lean of the bike into the sidecar = 1 - 2 degrees

Info and diagram on trail on www.race-uscra.com/sidecar.html

Went to the website and gather that the quoted info above comes form the attached two documents that are worth a read for those that are into it.

**GSVR** · 26th April 2013, 07:38

Originally Posted by Pumba

Cheers for the links, interesting reading, unfortuently no "standard" sidecar plans there. Oh well.D.

Sorry just said plans assuming something was there.

also....

"positive trail 0.5 to 0.75 of an inch (10 to 15mm)."

Dunno what positive trail is. Read the PDF too. Thought trail was trail.

Negative trail would not be trail at all.

I reacon zero trail under full suspension compression would be ideal. Eccessive trail is definately one to avoid.