ANZACs and war and stuff

[scumdog]

That raises a big question.
How could they be so comprehensively destroyed?
200,000 tons of super strength steel turned to dust.
All the office furniture etc. Refrigerators, filing cabinets, steel chairs, and all the people - 'vapourised' (911 Commission report) - turned to dust.
Save for part of the lower corners of each building.

This question hasn't been answered.

Why will the Govt. not answer any questions about the destruction of the towers? 12 years down the track - still no answers.

So...how did 'they' do it?

Empty the buildings pre-destruction?

[Katman]

So...how did 'they' do it?

Empty the buildings pre-destruction?

I'm quite prepared to accept that planes flew into the twin towers - my eyes told me so.

But do you still contend that there is no possibility of anyone in the American government having an idea that it was going to happen?

And do you still believe that there is nothing unusual regarding the official story?

[Edbear]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septemb...iracy_theories

"Despite these reports, the Intelligence Community did not produce any assessments of the likelihood that terrorists would use planes as weapons, and U.S. policymakers apparently remained unaware of this kind of potential threat."[10] Former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger testified to the Joint Inquiry:

"We heard of the idea of planes as weapons, but I don't recall being presented with any specific threat information about an attack of this nature, or highlighting this threat, or indicating it was more likely than any other"[11]

[Katman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septemb...iracy_theories

Did you read the whole paragraph Ed?


The Joint Inquiry of 2002 confirmed that the Intelligence Community had received at least twelve reports over a seven-year period suggesting that terrorists might use planes as weapons. After briefly discussing each of them, it says that "The CIA disseminated several of these reports to the FBI and to agencies responsible for preventive actions. They included the FAA... Despite these reports, the Intelligence Community did not produce any assessments of the likelihood that terrorists would use planes as weapons, and U.S. policymakers apparently remained unaware of this kind of potential threat."[10] Former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger testified to the Joint Inquiry:
"We heard of the idea of planes as weapons, but I don't recall being presented with any specific threat information about an attack of this nature, or highlighting this threat, or indicating it was more likely than any other"

[Edbear]

Did you read the whole paragraph Ed?


The Joint Inquiry of 2002 confirmed that the Intelligence Community had received at least twelve reports over a seven-year period suggesting that terrorists might use planes as weapons. After briefly discussing each of them, it says that "The CIA disseminated several of these reports to the FBI and to agencies responsible for preventive actions. They included the FAA... Despite these reports, the Intelligence Community did not produce any assessments of the likelihood that terrorists would use planes as weapons, and U.S. policymakers apparently remained unaware of this kind of potential threat."[10] Former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger testified to the Joint Inquiry:
"We heard of the idea of planes as weapons, but I don't recall being presented with any specific threat information about an attack of this nature, or highlighting this threat, or indicating it was more likely than any other"

For the mentally challenged among us here, of course I did.

I quoted to sum up the fact that while the idea of using aircraft had been well publicised for a long time, they did not receive any specific information that would suggest such an attack on these targets was probable at the time, and they were not expecting it. The information was of a nature as to warn of the possiblity that at some point, such tactics may be used.

Had they received credible and specific warning I have no doubt they would have reacted.

I've also said in the past, there was no reason to destroy the two main symbols of US power and prestige along with killing thousands of their own people to give credence to take any actions against any country. The US has never in the past attacked and killed its own in order to give reason to go to war and there was no need to do so on 9/11 either. As it turned out the 9/11 incident was not used as an excuse for any actions against any country.

[Katman]

Have you seen this one Ed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFPOstgw3rk

[Edbear]

Have you seen this one Ed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFPOstgw3rk

Two points, that was not the only footage of the first plane hitting the tower. A typical conspiracy lie.

The fact that George W was an idiot and possibly lied is irrelevant. Few people took him seriously.

He would not have had the influence to organise anything even if it would have occured to him to do so. Does nothing to support the conspiracy theories, which have so resoundedly been debunked!

[Katman]

Two points, that was not the only footage of the first plane hitting the tower. A typical conspiracy lie.

The fact that George W was an idiot and possibly lied is irrelevant. Few people took him seriously.

He would not have had the influence to organise anything even if it would have occured to him to do so. Does nothing to support the conspiracy theories, which have so resoundedly been debunked!

I'm not saying that he did have the influence to organise anything. In fact, I agree with you that GWB is an idiot.

Those pulling his strings may well have had that influence though.

[Katman]

Two points, that was not the only footage of the first plane hitting the tower. A typical conspiracy lie.

So when was the very first time that the footage of the first plane hitting the tower was broadcast on television Ed?

[Edbear]

I'm not saying that he did have the influence to organise anything. In fact, I agree with you that GWB is an idiot.

Those pulling his strings may well have had that influence though.

Not for something that horrendous...

[Edbear]

So when was the very first time that the footage of the first plane hitting the tower was broadcast on television Ed?

I don't know, I do remember getting up that morning, switching on the TV and standing there gobsmacked in disbelief at the footage.

My point, as usual, was not anything to do with the time but the claim that it was the only footage.

[Katman]

Not for something that horrendous...

Really? Yet the Joint Chiefs of Staff can put forward proposals for acts of terrorism to be carried out on American soil?

[Banditbandit]

State-sanctioned Acts of terror occur every day on the streets in 'merika .. the armed services patrol the streets every day enforcing the wishes of the ruling elite ... they terroize the civilian population into aquiessence ...

[Edbear]

Really? Yet the Joint Chiefs of Staff can put forward proposals for acts of terrorism to be carried out on American soil?

Feigned acts of terorrism to be more specific which as has been verified, was sqaushed by the Govt.

[Edbear]

State-sanctioned Acts of terror occur every day om the stereets in 'merika .. the armed services patrol the streets every day enforcing the wishes of the ruling elite ... they terroize the civilian population into aquiessence ...

You have evidence of course...