Oxford heated hand grips saga

[oneofsix]

No, worn as a bandana of course to hide the circumcision scar

prefer it as a neck warmer, the air flow lifts the ambience

[leathel]

That shit sounds too technical, what's wrong with a simple on/off switch somewhere in the circuit?

there is one on the control unit..... you just need to remember to turn it of....

I wired mine through a relay just to be sure I didn't forget

Damn they get hot though... never have them on full

Plenty of rain has been on my switch assembly and its still going fine.....

[caspernz]

prefer it as a neck warmer, the air flow lifts the ambience

Is that like saying the fun lasts longer when the pants are worn lower down?

[Berg]

Just cut into the main power out put wire from the ignition switch, I have fitted 100's of sets of heated grips and always wire them in this way saves the cost of the relay and is simpler.

As for the cut out voltage they all vary, some are worse than others. I have seen sets that turn off at 13 volts and others that flatten batteries just like yours which is why I always recommend to my customers that they wire them through the ignition.

Always wire mine through a relay. Tried direct to the ignition of an Aprilia and it chucked up an error code on the dash. Relayed it and it sorted the problem.

[Dave-]

That shit sounds too technical, what's wrong with a simple on/off switch somewhere in the circuit?

It's good practise not to wire a switch in series with a full 12V behind it because you don't usually want the higher power going through the switch. Higher power switches tend to wear faster, cost more, and there's the risk of getting a shock.

So you'd usually wire a lower voltage through a switch to a relay which turns on the higher power to your hot grips with the relay, with this in mind you'd need to splice into the loom, and find 5V, and then add a switch.

A switch can be forgotten about (we're all human) and seeing as you have your 5V right there, you might as well wire it straight on to the relay. You reduce parts and complexity, which lowers costs and increases reliability.

I assume you'd be flicking this switch on and off every single time you turn the key on and off for about half a year? therefore you're flicking this switch as often as you're flicking the key.

A relay is just a simple on/off switch except instead of using your finger to trigger it on and off, you use another power source.

[davereid]

Always wire mine through a relay. Tried direct to the ignition of an Aprilia and it chucked up an error code on the dash. Relayed it and it sorted the problem.

Yep. You need a relay. Its 4 amps for the hot grips that the man that designed the loom. and the ignition switch, and specified the fuse didn't allow for.

A relay or an independent switch costs $10 and is the correct way to do the job.

[SMOKEU]

It's good practise not to wire a switch in series with a full 12V behind it because you don't usually want the higher power going through the switch. Higher power switches tend to wear faster, cost more, and there's the risk of getting a shock.

So you'd usually wire a lower voltage through a switch to a relay which turns on the higher power to your hot grips with the relay, with this in mind you'd need to splice into the loom, and find 5V, and then add a switch.

A switch can be forgotten about (we're all human) and seeing as you have your 5V right there, you might as well wire it straight on to the relay. You reduce parts and complexity, which lowers costs and increases reliability.

I assume you'd be flicking this switch on and off every single time you turn the key on and off for about half a year? therefore you're flicking this switch as often as you're flicking the key.

A relay is just a simple on/off switch except instead of using your finger to trigger it on and off, you use another power source.

Now it sounds like my wiring job of connecting the radiator fan straight to the battery (with a fuse close to the battery) on my GSXR is bad.

[davereid]

(a) It's good practise not to wire a switch in series with a full 12V behind it because you don't usually want the higher power going through the switch. Higher power switches tend to wear faster, cost more, and there's the risk of getting a shock.

(b) So you'd usually wire a lower voltage through a switch to a relay which turns on the (c) higher power to your hot grips with the relay, with this in mind you'd need to splice into the loom, (d) and find 5V, and then add a switch.

(e) A switch can be forgotten about (we're all human) and seeing as you have your (f) 5V right there, you might as well wire it straight on to the relay. (g) You reduce parts and complexity, which lowers costs and increases reliability.

(h)I assume you'd be flicking this switch on and off every single time you turn the key on and off for about half a year? therefore you're flicking this switch as often as you're flicking the key.

(i)A relay is just a simple on/off switch except instead of using your finger to trigger it on and off, you use another power source.

(a) Yeh (b) nah (c) yeah (d) nah (e)Yeah (f)nah (g)yeah (h)yeah (i)yeah

With any luck the entire electrical system on yer scoot is a nom. 12v... if you find 5v in too many places you had better get a snapper card.

[Erelyes]

Got hotgrips recently. Didn't get em to install them cos I understand electicky and can wire and solder mahself gawdammit.

Bike shop guy said not to bother wiring through a relay and just do it through the ignition maaaaaate.

I figured

- If I'm dumb and forget to turn em off (entirely likely), is he gonna rescue me? Nup.
- If I run the grips through the ignition switch and the switch burns out (or I melt wires in the loom) will he give it to me for anything less than the cost of a relay? Nup.
- Is a relay expensive, or difficult to tie in? Nup.

Relay = cheap insurance

[Dave-]

(a) Yeh (b) nah (c) yeah (d) nah (e)Yeah (f)nah (g)yeah (h)yeah (i)yeah

With any luck the entire electrical system on yer scoot is a nom. 12v... if you find 5v in too many places you had better get a snapper card.

Actually yeah I retract my previous 5V claims, few bike will have it, and even then I'm basing my logic on the following:

http://www.tek-tronics.co.uk/product...roducts_id=129

they claim there's a 5V LED wire, I haven't bothered measuring what the voltage in the LED wire is.

Use any old wire that is high when the ignition is fully on and low when it is switched off, if you have/can find a 5V, check it first, then use it if you want.

Better advice?

[russd7]

the oxford hot grips i put on the zzr said it was better to wire them directly to the battery and preferred not through the ignition, have had very little prob with them as long as i remember to turn them off
haven't put them on the whisperjet yet

[davereid]

Use any old wire that is high when the ignition is fully on and low when it is switched off, if you have/can find a 5V, check it first, then use it if you want.Better advice?

Your advice was great.

The issue is current not voltage thats all and I'm in a grumpy picky shitty yeah nah yeah nah yeah nah mood

Wire your hotgrips up via 10 amp cable, with a 10 amp fuse and a relay that turns on with the tail light is the best. Its basically fool proof, the link old cunt err slofox posted is perfect.

[scumdog]

Now it sounds like my wiring job of connecting the radiator fan straight to the battery (with a fuse close to the battery) on my GSXR is bad.

A bit crude and yeah, bad...and how do you turn the fan on and off with that set-up?

[SMOKEU]

A bit crude and yeah, bad...and how do you turn the fan on and off with that set-up?

I drilled a small hole in the right hand fairing with a switch that I can easily flick on/off when I'm in slow traffic to prevent overheating.

[nallac]

I drilled a small hole in the right hand fairing with a switch that I can easily flick on/off when I'm in slow traffic to prevent overheating.

That sort of set up works good when ya remember to switch it on...... i never could 100% of the time in my Jag....