The Constitution. And shit.

[Banditbandit]

I am disputing your claim that "Our laws have existed here for 2,000 years ...", as it infers that Maori have been settled here for that long and it flies in the face of all research.

No - it only flies int eh face of some conclusions ...

Notwithstanding that, the length of time a legal system has been in place does not guarantee quality, equity or anything much at all. By that logic, Sharia Law would be OK as it’s been around for 12 centuries.

This is true ... length of time does not gaurantee quality. But then British law cannot claim the priviliged position it has held inthis country for about 150 years ... what made them think they had the right ???

[ducatilover]

Well, as you have opened this can of worms...off the top of my head;
The Kaimanawa wall
The stone village in the Waipoua forrest
The tamil bell discovered by Colenso in Whangarei
The spanish helmet found in the Wellington Harbour
400 year old Pohutakawa tree in Spain
The tons of bones found in caves near Warkworth that the Maori claimed were not of their people and subsequnetly got destroyed at the Onehunga limeworks
Maurice Tyson's discovery of a 7 foot tall skeleton in Tuakau
The carving found in the Kaipara dunes, now in the Dargaville marine museum
Ancient stone houses in Southland
and many more mysterious finds that the goverment and the Maori are closed mouthed about

Evidence would suggest that other races of people have visited our shores and possibly dined on Moa.

Don't be silly, only men in lttle tree boats can discover NZ. Nobody else, especially nobody with actual technology, superior boats, sea skills and gay cabin boys!

2000 year old Moa bones would have to be eaten/cooked by Maori because they said they were first.

Next year they'll tell us where they came from too!

[ducatilover]

No - it only flies int eh face of some conclusions ...



This is true ... length of time does not gaurantee quality. But then British law cannot claim the priviliged position it has held inthis country for about 150 years ... what made them think they had the right ???

At least the froggies didn't come and wipe the place clean, or the Japs. The Brutish Empire could have easily sailed a few proper boats with many men over and run riot, but they didn't.

might pay to smell these things once in a while and be thankful there wasn't a real war.

[Oscar]

This is true ... length of time does not gaurantee quality. But then British law cannot claim the priviliged position it has held inthis country for about 150 years ... what made them think they had the right ???

Perhaps the fact that it is the basis for the legal system in half the world?
Do you have a better alternative?

[Banditbandit]

Perhaps the fact that it is the basis for the legal system in half the world?
Do you have a better alternative?

Only half the world ???

Of course - there's always alternatives ... and always better ones ... 'cept, of course, you're not going to like it ...

[Oscar]

Only half the world ???

Of course - there's always alternatives ... and always better ones ... 'cept, of course, you're not going to like it ...

How do you know I won't like it?

It'd have to be good, though, to beat the likes of habeas corpus, innocent until proven innocent and the Magna Carta..

[Banditbandit]

How do you know I won't like it?

It'd have to be good, though, to beat the likes of habeas corpus, innocent until proven innocent and the Magna Carta..

Jeez .. Latin and Ancient England .. all in one ... I certainly can't beat that one .. Not even Plato, Aristotle or Malatesta are that heavy ..

(Haven't you discovered it's the 21st Centiry Oscar ??? Who is living in the past?

[Oscar]

Jeez .. Latin and Ancient England .. all in one ... I certainly can't beat that one .. Not even Plato, Aristotle or Malatesta are that heavy ..

(Haven't you discovered it's the 21st Centiry Oscar ??? Who is living in the past?

As I say - have you got anything better?
Start with the principal of habeas corpus (bring the body) - is there a better safeguard for liberty?

[Banditbandit]

As I say - have you got anything better?
Start with the principal of habeas corpus (bring the body) - is there a better safeguard for liberty?

Huh ?? Yeah .. my AK47 .. "bring the body" .. sheeeut when did that work with the state ??? They disappear people if they want to ...

[Akzle]

meanwhile in the us. independence day will be interesting this year.
i think i'll call it, countdown to greece.

[Oscar]

Huh ?? Yeah .. my AK47 .. "bring the body" .. sheeeut when did that work with the state ??? They disappear people if they want to ...

It protects the individual from the state.
It guarantees a trial.

[Banditbandit]

It protects the individual from the state.
It guarantees a trial.

What ????? ... My AK47 ... sure ... that's exactly the idea ... and why the NRA does not want gun control in 'Merika ...

I dunno about "trial" .. it'll certainly be a trial to get me the day they come for me ...

[Oscar]

What ????? ... My AK47 ... sure ... that's exactly the idea ... and why the NRA does not want gun control in 'Merika ...

I dunno about "trial" .. it'll certainly be a trial to get me the day they come for me ...

We were speaking of justice systems, not your wet dreams.

[Scuba_Steve]

We were speaking of justice systems

They exist??? where???

[mashman]

meanwhile in the us. independence day will be interesting this year.
i think i'll call it, countdown to greece.

As much as I hope that's not going to be the case, I kinda do... although tis likely that anyone considering such a thing will have been locked up in Guantanamo by now.