David Bain vs The Crown - game over

[Madness]

Well considering the number and quality of people who agree with me I couldn't care less what you think. As with our poor deluded Katman and his ilk, the fact that you are against me is comforting.

Ed I couldn't give any less of a rats arse who you think agrees with you. There's no shortage of brain-dead fuckwits in this world, hell I had two of the fuckers knock on my door on the weekend. Don't flatter yourself either Ed; I'm not against you, I just think you're a fuckwit.

[Edbear]

Ed I couldn't give any less of a rats arse who you think agrees with you. There's no shortage of brain-dead fuckwits in this world, hell I had two of the fuckers knock on my door on the weekend. Don't flatter yourself either Ed; I'm not against you, I just think you're a fuckwit.

Like I said, comforting to know.

[scumdog]

So this situation obviously isn't exclusive to the particular case you're reffering to, is it? Pretty fucking simple I would have thought, either write down the exact time (including seconds) or allow 11 minutes.

Sheesh, it's a wonder anyone gets convicted in this country.

Up until that incident EVERYBODY had been writing down ten minutes of time, never had a problem before.

And when it was decided by the bosses to give additional time 'to make sure' - guess what? some lawyer then used the defence that the extra time 'confused' his client...

I guess working with the system lets me see more of this daftness...

If I was sarcastic I could say "Geez, you have all the answers" - but some lawyer(s) have come up with all the answers before you...

Anyway, back to 'David the Deathdealer' before we get a ticking off for going o.t...

[Madness]

Up until that incident EVERYBODY had been writing down ten minutes of time, never had a problem before.

And when it was decided by the bosses to give additional time 'to make sure' - guess what? some lawyer then used the defence that the extra time 'confused' his client...

I guess working with the system lets me see more of this daftness...

If I was sarcastic I could say "Geez, you have all the answers" - but some lawyer(s) have come up with all the answers before you...

Anyway, back to 'David the Deathdealer' before we get a ticking off for going o.t...

Discussing incompetence & lack of intelligence amongst our serving popo is hardly off topic I would have thought.

So the concept of minutes and seconds is beyond the cognitive skills of some of your colleagues then? Is this what you're saying by not saying it?

[Maha]

It's entirely plausible that neither Robin nor David did the killings.

[unstuck]

Most of the bobbys on the beat that I have dealt with have just seem to be normal blokes making a living. Those detectives on the other hand.

[Katman]

Anyhow Ed, do you have any answers for post #336?

[oldrider]

The perfect crime?

"Five people dead", primary suspect walks free, taxpayers "clamouring" to pay compensation!

Doesn't get much better than that!

Only in New Zealand.

[Katman]

Well considering the number and quality of people who agree with me I couldn't care less what you think.

Yeah, I bet you and Maha argue for hours over who has the highest IQ.

[testastretta]

It's entirely plausible that neither Robin nor David did the killings.

That was Karam's defence if they had to go to a third trial.

If Robin did it like many of David's supporters think he did, then why has David only had good things to say about his father and that he doesn't believe that there was an improper relationship between Robin and Laniet?

Oh I know why. Its because he told him that he is the only one who deserved to live. Gee thanks Dad!

I bet that Arawa, Laniet and Stephen must have been shits of kids.

[scumdog]

So the concept of minutes and seconds is beyond the cognitive skills of some of your colleagues then? Is this what you're saying by not saying it?

Ain't 20-20 hindsight great!!

SO, how good at 100% perfection and foresight are your work colleagues....

[98tls]

Still puzzled as to why he didnt use this.

[Madness]

Ain't 20-20 hindsight great!!

SO, how good at 100% perfection and foresight are your work colleagues....

My work colleagues are irrelevant to this discussion although if one of them screws up there's a chance someone ends up either dead or extremely sore. We're yet to kill anyone as far as I'm aware so we must be doing okay.

The point is the 10 minute period is a legal requirement. 10 minutes is equal to 600 seconds. It would have taken all of about three or four seconds of the popo's time to note the exact start & finish time so is it a case of laziness or more of a systematic problem originating from HQ? Who has been held accountable for this fuck-up?

I could understand the frustration (and maybe even Ed's baseless attack on the presiding Judge) if the issue was one of nano-seconds. As road-users we're all asked to remember the "three-second rule" so it's hardly rocket science is it?

[Edbear]

My work colleagues are irrelevant to this discussion although if one of them screws up there's a chance someone ends up either dead or extremely sore. We're yet to kill anyone as far as I'm aware so we must be doing okay.

The point is the 10 minute period is a legal requirement. 10 minutes is equal to 600 seconds. It would have taken all of about three or four seconds of the popo's time to note the exact start & finish time so is it a case of laziness or more of a systematic problem originating from HQ? Who has been held accountable for this fuck-up?

I could understand the frustration (and maybe even Ed's baseless attack on the presiding Judge) if the issue was one of nano-seconds. As road-users we're all asked to remember the "three-second rule" so it's hardly rocket science is it?

The guy was guilty! Why let him off in a stupid technicality? What if next time he kills one of your loved ones?

I bet you think you possess common sense, too...

[scumdog]

The point is the 10 minute period is a legal requirement. 10 minutes is equal to 600 seconds. It would have taken all of about three or four seconds of the popo's time to note the exact start & finish time so is it a case of laziness or more of a systematic problem originating from HQ? Who has been held accountable for this fuck-up?

The cop wrote down the correct time - but the lawyer went hair-splitting about the cops accuracy in reading the time - NOT that his client 'only got nne minutes and fifty seconds' per se - but that it might not have been a full 10 minutes.

And a person would REALLY suddenly change their mind in a second?

None that I've met - when asked at the end of their ten minutes they have already made up their mind - some before the ten minutes even starts.

"Walk a day in my moccassins" instead of sniping away on a key-board - oh and tell me what you do so's I can find fault with you/your workmates/procedure etc??



Nah, don't worry about it, I'm above doing that.

And apart from that, even if I did so it would be as productive as your criticisms - nowt will change because of them.