Mark Lundy - miscarriage of justice?

[Crasherfromwayback]

So he had a quantity of drugs on him, along with snap lock bags, scales and a briefcase of money, and you found him not guilty of supply?

Must have been a phenomenal defense team - or a retarded prosecution.

He would've been fucked if his hooch was in the seperate snap lock bags at the time of getting busted!

[scumdog]

So he had a quantity of drugs on him, along with snap lock bags, scales and a briefcase of money, and you found him not guilty of supply?

Must have been a phenomenal defense team - or a retarded prosecution.

I bet Lundy wishes HE had a defense team like that...

[Maha]

So he had a quantity of drugs on him, along with snap lock bags, scales and a briefcase of money, and you found him not guilty of supply?

Must have been a phenomenal defense team - or a retarded prosecution.

Defendant said the money in the case was for a motorcycle motor he was buying in Auckland...we were instructed by the Judge that we could ONLY find him guilty of supply if there was evidence to suggest that he shared his drugs with others at the party where he was arrested. The Police had followed this character from the Hawkes Bay to Papamoa where he was arrested. I believed (at the beginning of the trial) that the police had a water tight case, they knew what they were after...and who. But failed to provide (in the end) clear evidence that he was a supplier. Job Done.

[Drew]

I bet Lundy wishes HE had a defense team like that...

Are you allowed to weigh in, and give us your opinion of the specific case?

[scumdog]

Are you allowed to weigh in, and give us your opinion of the specific case?

Uh-uh

It would be a no win for me regardless which side I took..

[Crasherfromwayback]

Uh-uh

It would be a no win for me regardless which side I took..

Be a win if you'd just confiscated it in the first place...

[Drew]

Uh-uh

It would be a no win for me regardless which side I took..

Yeah, that makes sense.

[korimako1]

How the blind old clairvoyant presented her evidence with a straight face, is beyond me.

There must have been some investigation into the possibility that he nailed the hooker, then went home to kill them. Mind you, if the cops took the evidence of the pathologist as gospel, maybe not.

I am sure they would have checked that. but the pathologists evidence, flawed as it was, also eliminated a TOD around 2am or later. Hey they withheld documents from the defence about the stuff on his shirt so whatelse have they withheld?

[korimako1]

Did the journo in this article cover all view points? Cover everything in this case that is fact, allegations made, prime witness statements (both crown and defense) all evidence produced and a complete picture of the case, both for the crown and defence?.

Actually I know Mike White, and yes he did all of the above before writing the article.

[korimako1]

From my experience the defence know all the evidence the prosecution is going to present and how to rebutt it.

Yes, but only when the police actually disclose all the evidence.

[korimako1]

So, at the end of the day who else would have benefitted from the deaths??

Here's some for you to think about. I saw an article stating lundys land package (purchase price$24,500 per hectare to lundy) sold for $36,000 per hectare to some americian buyers???? Also a witness who has permanent name suppression, for what reason I don't know, he's a dodgy shit. 4 uneliminated suspects.

[korimako1]

Nah, I can't draw for shit.

Beautiful absolutely beautiful

[Swoop]

That North & South article makes interesting reading.

[korimako1]

Ahem... I have validated Mr Lundy's drive.

I believe there is a reward out there for anyone who can replicate the drive. the money is safe. it cant be done regardless of drunken boasts. remember it must be done through peak hour traffic, petone and all the way to other side of pnth wait say 10 minutes to do the deed running to and from scene, and then back to petone.
Validate that.

[Winston001]

So the police, yet again, withhold information that could have potentially destroyed their case.

The police's explanation for Christine being in bed at 7pm was that in the phone conversation that she had with Mark that night he had convinced her to get into bed because he was coming home to have sex with her.

However, according to the North & South article.......

Julie Burnett, who rang Christine at 6.56pm
that Tuesday, inquired whether Mark would
be at wine club the following week. At trial,
she merely said Christine told her Mark was
out. But in a previously undisclosed notebook
from an interview with Burnett, Detective
Melinda Rix writes: “CL tells JB ML out and
will be back in town Wed” – not that she was
expecting him home any moment.

Ok. A few thoughts.

1. For years the police have been required to provide "discovery" which means copies of witness statements and officers notes, to the defense. Were Detective Rix's notes disclosed?

2. Discovery is not an exact science. There have been cases (such as corporate fraud) where the defense have been shown a warehouse of documents and told to help themselves. Funnily enough they miss stuff... The prosecution are now only supposed to disclose directly relevant information which means minor notes and docs get left out. It is entirely possible Detective Rix's notes were insignificant and overlooked - by both sides.

3. If Christine Lundy expected him home at any moment for an erotic adventure, that is intensely private and not the sort of thing she would be expected to share with others. Particularly if Mark was going to then return to Wellington to carry on with business. As far as the rest of the world was concerned, Mark was away until Wednesday and Christine would continue to say that because the private interlude was nobody elses business.

4. The central issue here is whether the police disclosed the Detective's notes. If not then that is a serious matter albeit perhaps not enough on its own to overturn the conviction.

Personally I've always wondered about this case. Lundy may be a pratt but its a hard ask to see him driving that journey.