In respect of Enoch Powell, dont knock the man. He certainly was very accurate in his predictions, more is the pity he wasnt taken seriously at the time. We seriously need people of his intellect and integrity.Originally Posted by Berries
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In respect of Enoch Powell, dont knock the man. He certainly was very accurate in his predictions, more is the pity he wasnt taken seriously at the time. We seriously need people of his intellect and integrity.
Hardcore Biker
I doubt you are in the lower 30%
Half the worlds population earn $2 a day or less. Half of them earn $1 a day or less.
Many of those are in good capitalist countries where income disparity is at an extreme level. India for instance - Highest number of Billionaires.
This is the road the present govt. seems to be heading us down.
Keep propping them up like a monkey and you or your descendents could well end up in the 30% bracket.
Time to start thinking.
Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin.
One prefers to use its head, while the other relies on tales.
Aio ki te Aorangi
There is no hypocrisy.
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
Forum whore
Our mainly deceased fathers and granfathers fought against fascism. Its fair to say they would have a much better understanding of what the true meaning of fascism is, rather than its rather loose and emotive employment as a term of derision in this thread.
Come warm yourself by the fire
Occupy a segment, of a chat forum. On the internet.
I did my 20 seconds. Now back to the porn
Reactor Online. Sensors Online. Weapons Online. All Systems Nominal.
Come warm yourself by the fire
Hang on, it just occurred to me. What percentage of the world posts in the Rant or Rave section.
Must be less than 1%
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Hardcore Biker
My heart bleeds for those whose lives are taken or destroyed by Corporations and the govts. that do their bidding.
My heart bleeds for the death of justice and the rule of law.
John Key giving away our tax dollars to support terrorists -
If the leader of the Black Power / Mongrel Mob or any other gang in NZ gave moral support, encouragement and finance to a group of thugs to commit mayhem and murder I feel sure the public would want to see them locked up and removed from society at the least. Many would want even harsher measures.
Should Key suffer the same justice?
Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin.
One prefers to use its head, while the other relies on tales.
Aio ki te Aorangi
I was merely extrapolating your argument. Or are you so special you're allowed to have your cake and eat it too? Thanks for the luck, I might need it. So far 1% of those I have interacted personally with have sided with your majority view and they're from all walks of life.
As I've said before, I understand what needs to be done, it's the knowing what I don't know that KB offers. Hopefully another approach you'll approve of.
Preconceptions are the hardest things to overcome and I'm under no illusion that it is me that overcomes them for the person... they have to do it for themselves. After that point in time the name doesn't matter. Brand mentality is strong with you and as a marketing acquaintance of mine found out, it's by no means about the marketing when it comes to things that are personal to people, because it is about them.
Computers are useful, but there are too many parts that are disposable and wasted. It costs money to reduce, reuse, recycle. Design the thing right in the first place and we'll use less of the resource... but as business is all about making things obsolete and the return wouldn't be as high if you sold the components, then damned right people should wiggle their finger at the fuckers perpetuating such wastage. Got it yet?
I can play the emotive victim if you'd prefer... or perhaps the unyielding extremist... or perhaps the scatty eccentric... or perhaps the uber altruist... or perhaps the troll... either way, the message remains the same. Different folk respond to different delivery's in different ways. Different folk have different priorities to other folk. People are different and I will not be targeting a demographic... that and it's impossible to be everything to all people, especially when they have heir own minds and especially when they refuse to use them. Shame there's a small percentage of people who would prefer to trust those who would sell them in a heart beat than those who would hold out a helping hand and want change for the better. Shame that small percentage realise that they are so vastly outnumbered and that there are indeed more and more people thinking along "similar" lines to myself that they need to spy on them in order to defend themselves... and all because they know that they're so full of shit that if it came down to a straight choice they would likely lose, or at the very least would realise just how many are against how they go about things.
The hearts and minds are easy to win so long as the idea is acceptable in regards to what they have to undertake to make it a possibility. It's not apathy if all you're required to do is work and live a happy life.
Forum whore
Fascism is of course a term that is used very loosely, and often to intend as an insult. But those further to the left than those who post on here with left leaning sympathies are known as communists. Now dont get me wrong, if a left leaning voter has the courage of his or her convictions and consistently votes left then I have way more respect for them than swing voters. And respect for a number of their arguments. Indeed people on here such as Hinny and Mashman often have plausible and well considered arguments, whether you choose to agree with them or not.
When I lived in England I was of course a Maggie fan through and through, but always had respect and interest of Michael Foot and his own powerful intellect ( which he didnt articulate so well )
Many communist regimes have been in practice the same as fascist regimes. Exercising total control, hell bent on territorial conquest and killing people that didnt agree with them or were of ''incorrect'' ethnicity etc. I believe for example that around 29 million Russians lost their lives during World War 2. 9 million by Hitler and 20 million by Stalin.
So to loosely use the word Fascist and not be so conversant of history is a little bit disingenuous
Aio ki te Aorangi
We're only just finding out the reasons that wars are fought and as more and more details are reported, the more we find out that it's never for the reasons stated when seeking acceptance. What you reckon that all wars have been started for reasons other than stated?
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I was thinking nationally, where we can actually make a change to the way things a run, but whatevs.
That's not informative in the least... All these doom and gloom predictions, what are they about? If we think about them, well you lot have shown no significant degree of aptitude in assessing the way things are going. So the logical conclusion to thinking about it, is to go 'yeh, it may not be ideal but it's the best we've got' then stop thinking about it. So why exactly is it time to start thinking? Or are you one of the many who just assume anyone who disagrees with you is not thinking hard enough?
If you want change, you need to earn it, avoid the insults and work constructively to educate people. Mashman and the like have really set things back on this issue for me, through their ineptitude at constructive discussion; the 99% protest interviews have had a similar result... I'm now less likely to want change than if you guys had not brought it up at all; it's like you are to the financial system what Ed is to atheism; its the same self righteousness, lack of constructive and open discussion, coupled with a really shit deliveryonly imo of course
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
Hardcore Biker
It apparently has a new meaning now.
Like Maori, English is a living language and is constantly changing.
The true meaning of words becomes, like the correct pronunciation of words, whatever the vernacular is. The common useage.
The new norm becomes the new truth.
Like pronouncing WH as F in Maori. Like saying 'Free' for the number 3.
W T Wh.
Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin.
One prefers to use its head, while the other relies on tales.
Aio ki te Aorangi
I once had "my" discussions with people ootside of a pub over a few drinkies one evenink, probably over the space of an hour or two. Questions were asked by all, even tough ones with no concrete answer, and then it started to rain. One person got up (he who asked most of the questions) and whilst smiling and polite exclaimed that it matched the doom and gloom mood of the conversation. 3 others at the table, in unison I might add, exclaimed that it was an exceptionally positive discussion and not doomish or gloomish in the slightest.
You see what you choose to see big fulla. (Oh yeah, these guys were all strangers)
Hardcore Punk
Oh the irony.
For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.
Bogeyman
And currency, no less...
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
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