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    Hope for some - one day?

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    All good - but they need to ensure that drivers engage their brain at the same time as they engage their gears ...
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    What a load of absolute unadalterated crap!

    All this will achieve is to provide yet another piece of electronic crap that drivers will expect to do their job for them and raise the purchase price of vehicles yet again for no advantage.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    What a load of absolute unadalterated crap!

    All this will achieve is to provide yet another piece of electronic crap that drivers will expect to do their job for them and raise the purchase price of vehicles yet again for no advantage.
    .......and take the onus off ''what really happened'' ie: ''the vehicle-to-vehicle communications system didn't do it's job I tell ya, not my fault''!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    .......and take the onus off ''what really happened'' ie: ''the vehicle-to-vehicle communications system didn't do it's job I tell ya, not my fault''!
    Yeah, instead of SMIDSY it'll be SMMCDSY*.





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    Ah... BMW has been testing something like this as well...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Legal eagles are already discussing the possible court cases coming up where too much emphasis is placed upon vehicle electronics, particularly electronic throtle control and guidance systems.

    Ultimately, the driver has responsibility, but when control is taken out of his hands, or feet, literally, where does that leave him?

    Visual and audible warning devices are one thing and have their uses, but the driver is still in control and responsible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    ...but the driver is still in control and responsible.
    That ship sailed (without most drivers) a long time ago...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    That ship sailed (without most drivers) a long time ago...
    Well, that's the theory anyway. I know in Auckland it does seem a rare thing to see a driver in control and responsible...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Well, that's the theory anyway. I know in Auckland it does seem a rare thing to see a driver in control and responsible...
    Indeed it is rare to see it. But I'm not at all sure that the problem is as big as it's made out to be. The good drivers don't have much opportunity to prove to others that they are indeed "in control and responsible". We only see those that prove they are otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Indeed it is rare to see it. But I'm not at all sure that the problem is as big as it's made out to be. The good drivers don't have much opportunity to prove to others that they are indeed "in control and responsible". We only see those that prove they are otherwise.
    Oh, you're quite right of course, but it is far too often we do see drivers who aren't and it can be somewhat nerve-wracking at times to have to negotiate around the morons who are either distracted, usually on the phone or texting, or are swapping lanes and directions on a whim without any warning, like indicators for example, or are simply incompetent to travel at anywhere near the speed limit, whatever speed zone they are in, and stay in their lane.

    The almost invariably Asian's, who stick to the right hand lane at 90km/h are the least of our concerns.
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    The cage version of TCAS; it certainly sounds appealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Indeed it is rare to see it. But I'm not at all sure that the problem is as big as it's made out to be.
    As someone who can easily travel across the city in a day's work, the driving tends to vary by area. East is usually clueless and incompetent. South simply doesn't give a fuck, you blinked, so it means you'll give way to them (more likely get out of the way). West are just plain crazy. I've seen them in broad daylight stop for a red light, see that no-one is coming and simply go again, or think the road is their race track. North I've actually found to be responsible good drivers on average.

    Exceptions to every rule though...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Well, that's the theory anyway. I know in Auckland it does seem a rare thing to see a driver in control and responsible...
    Odd theory fella'.

    I drive AK's motorways every day,see thousands of people driving and riding,,,,and can count the standout fuckwits on one hand most days.
    You absolutley sure it's not just,,,,in your street

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    Nah, saw 28 cars turn a corner near a school last Friday about 2:45pm. 4 turned into the correct lane, one of those used indicators, 24 just did whatever the fuck they felt like. I thought Chch drivers sucked, but Auckland

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