I am therefore I do
So they are clearly having an effect on killing Bees & other pollinators with one product & yet are one of the main suppliers of Varroa treatments that are helping to save Bees.......Originally Posted by gwigs
Making money wether they are fixing or fucking......
Forum whore
So what killed the 37 million bees?
Bogeyman
Who said that? SOunds like you've been selectively translating shit again. Badly.
.... Nope, makes no sense, gibberish I'm afraid.
Who says they're not needed? The fella that paid for the tree certainly didn't agree with you, and as it's his tree he gets to do whatever the fuck he wants with it.
Aye. Rules set by that committee, eh?
Big black dog upya.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Royal Enfield user
just watched a BBC prog all about that
the chemicals, forget its name causes the bee to get disorientated and lose the hive
ALSO, the veroa and the loss of habitat ( monoculture)
As for do we need the bee, yes , or its dry toast for breakfast
Stephen
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
Aio ki te Aorangi
So what are the banks that did the counting gonna do? Restore confidence by backing their financial system against the financial value of the planet's resources? or something entirely different?
All resources are priceless because they are to be used for a genuine purpose and not to make profit.
Tickets are a financial token that represent the financial value of some goods/services etc... They really are obselete, in exactly the same way as boarding passes etc... are. Ditch the financial system, save a tree for something that serves a genuine purpose. (No more circulars, YAY.)
As opposed to the rules set by the banks who have counted the trees? then yes, that committee.
I'd rather not indulge you in your fantasies if you don't mind.
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
Forum whore
Colony Collapse Disorder? Sure as shit isn't that.
There's an interview with the apiarist here and pictures of the incident :-
http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/ontar...#ixzz2YH5fT9UZ
Has all the hallmarks of an acute poisoning incident. Looks like somebody fucked up big time spraying something they were feeding on. I don't understand why they can't find out what the material was and who sprayed it. Everything applied has to be recorded and the records available for inspection. The apiarist must know what they were feeding on... surely?
I am therefore I do
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonicotinoid for a start
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/cel...ry?id=13597625 possibly maybe as well
Bogeyman
Perhaps if you tried something a bit different and actually read the fucking links you post to whinge about you'd find out, because they told you exactly what they proposed to do.
Yes, yes we know that's what you'd like, but all that really means is that you want to decide what's a "genuine purpose". You get to decide what use is OK for your shit, for everyone else's shit you get to mind your own fucking business.
The very last thing that'd produce fewer trees being felled is ditching the financial system. Anyone so benightedly fukt in the head as to manage to arrive in such a world would make like Douglas Adams' B ark idiots and start saving leaves instead.
Like I said, we know the current system's rules and the vast majority manage it just fine. You and your committee can get fukt.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Forum whore
The symptoms of Colony Collapse disorder include :-
1) complete absence of adult bees in colonies, with few or no dead bees in or around colonies,
The symptoms of this incident include :-
Drifts of dead and dying bees surrounding the colonies exhibiting symptoms of neurotoxicity.
After searching through mounds of reports I've managed to find one that says the Dept of Agriculture has taken samples and expects the results shortly. So then we'll know.
Aio ki te Aorangi
I did read the link, but I didn't store it in my wank bank. I have serious doubts that this is going to help. I won't take them at their word. Let's hope I'm wrong.
No problem. You make it sound like 1984.
Care to try that one in English?
Vast majority manage what? You don't think that things are currently run by committees? Did you read the article? they're forming a new committee, well, at least one.
Bogeyman
Given that you didn't bother retaining the relevant details you probably will be wrong.
Most people would agree that having some arbitrary committee dictate what you can do with your life is pretty much what 1984 was about.
It is in English. Douglas Adams is possibly the language's most respected exponent. If you haven't read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy you aren't qualified to use the language.
Their finances. And I don't give a fuck what's run by committees, as long as they stick to their own business.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Aio ki te Aorangi
Same shit, different currency. What more is there to remember?
And that's what you believe what would happen in "my" system because we would govern by committee? Other than being a very high level description of what would take place, it's quite the opposite as to how I see it. You can't just turn the entire system off.
Well, I missed your point and still don't see one. Yes I read the series.
I'm all for that, kinda. It would hasten the demise somewhat. Who the fuck gives a shit about your business out of the 7 billion people on the planet? What do you think you would lose given my overly authoritative committees?
Royal Enfield user
not in Britain it aint , That looks like a one of event, the link you posted ... , the bees have on their way out for a number of years , I re-interate my original post. Stephen
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
Bogeyman
Selective memory, eh? Yeah, you definitely slide right off any reference showing your bogyman might possibly have the high ground.
Yes.
Contrary to popular belief the road to hell is paved with arseholes who feel the need to make other's decisions for them.
And how you see things wouldn't protect you from the big fuckoff steamroller of public opinion, should you ever be even slightly successful in your goal to dictate terms, no mater what "level" it's done at.
Faced with the prospect of no money they decided to make their own. They decided to use leaves, because they were certified fuckwits.
Inflation was a problem. But not as much as the fact that they were fuckwits who thought they knew how trade and commerce worked.
Apparently the B ark survivors didn't all die off after all, you're living, breathing proof of it.
Yeah. That "kinda" is a problem.
And apparently you give a shit, seeing as how you don't like the way everyoine else carries out there business. So thank's to the committee an'all, but fuck off.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
They call me Mr Fahrenheit
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archive...fect_of_m.html
The Effect of Money on Trust
Money reduces trust in small groups, but increases it in larger groups. Basically, the introduction of money allows society to scale.
The team devised an experiment where subjects in small and large groups had the option to give gifts in exchange for tokens.
They found that there was a social cost to introducing this incentive. When all tokens were "spent", a potential gift-giver was less likely to help than they had been in a setting where tokens had not yet been introduced.
The same effect was found in smaller groups, who were less generous when there was the option of receiving a token.
"Subjects basically latched on to monetary exchange, and stopped helping unless they received immediate compensation in a form of an intrinsically worthless object [a token].
"Using money does help large societies to achieve larger levels of co-operation than smaller societies, but it does so at a cost of displacing normal of voluntary help that is the bread and butter of smaller societies, in which everyone knows each other," said Prof Camera.
But he said that this negative result was not found in larger anonymous groups of 32, instead co-operation increased with the use of tokens.
"This is exciting because we introduced something that adds nothing to the economy, but it helped participants converge on a behaviour that is more trustworthy."
He added that the study reflected monetary exchange in daily life: "Global interaction expands the set of trade opportunities, but it dilutes the level of information about others' past behaviour. In this sense, one can view tokens in our experiment as a parable for global monetary exchange."
Keep on chooglin'
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