Stupid World

[Ocean1]

Your health dollar hard at work.... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/heal...unlimited-food

[mashman]

Culture In Decline.....

Nice find... All a matter of making a single decision eh

Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction. They may be summed up by the phrases:

1- It's completely impossible.
2- It's possible, but it's not worth doing.
3- I said it was a good idea all along.

[mashman]

Your health dollar hard at work.... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/heal...unlimited-food

Meh. Dr's need feeding too.

[Ocean1]

Meh. Dr's need feeding too.

Aye, and there's no reason they can't pay for their own lunch like everyone else rather than siphoning it from the health budget.

[mashman]

Aye, and there's no reason they can't pay for their own lunch like everyone else rather than siphoning it from the health budget.

Awwwww I dunno, what's wrong with spending a little money on feeding doctors? They're life savers after all.

[gwigs]

Mmm politicians get free lunch dont they...and lots of other freebies too
Doctors deserve a free lunch especially with the hours they have work...
Rather give something to them than to Politicians..

[Ocean1]

Mmm politicians get free lunch dont they...and lots of other freebies too
Doctors deserve a free lunch especially with the hours they have work...
Rather give something to them than to Politicians..

Whereas most of the rest of us would rather the 9 million dollars was spent on public health, as was intended.

But perhaps you could track down those who fell off the bottom of the waiting lists and explain to them why junior doctors who make >$80/year spent their allocated budget on lunch.

[Scuba_Steve]

Whereas most of the rest of us would rather the 9 million dollars was spent on public health, as was intended.

But perhaps you could track down those who fell off the bottom of the waiting lists and explain to them why junior doctors who make >$80/year spent their allocated budget on lunch.

I'd rather see the dictators pay for their food before making the doctors pay for theirs, but yes this is an out of date rule back from when 1) the doctors worked extreme hours & 2) the food was hospital owned not privatised & thus was at cost not costly!

[gwigs]

Whereas most of the rest of us would rather the 9 million dollars was spent on public health, as was intended.

But perhaps you could track down those who fell off the bottom of the waiting lists and explain to them why junior doctors who make >$80/year spent their allocated budget on lunch.

Most of us , so you speak for most of us then ?..well not me for a start
Where does your authority come from to speak for most of us ?...
Out of your imagination me thinks...

[Banditbandit]

Whereas most of the rest of us would rather the 9 million dollars was spent on public health, as was intended.

But perhaps you could track down those who fell off the bottom of the waiting lists and explain to them why junior doctors who make >$80/year spent their allocated budget on lunch.

The article said "Junior doctors" not doctors - and they earn less than $80,000 - as well as working strange hours - so they eat at the hospital cafes ..

[avgas]

Whereas most of the rest of us would rather the 9 million dollars was spent on public health, as was intended.

Technically it still is.
Feed the doctors - they stay in the hospital - so an emergency resource is at hand - also means doctors don't rush home for dinner - so do overtime.

Unless you have a way to perform medical procedures without a doctor - I am more than willing to pay $9m for un-eating robots that perform such wonders.
But then I foresee no need for hospitals. Just insert $2 into the local vending machine for your medical needs.

Or we pay the doctors lunch, which they must consume at the hospital cafe, and when we get rushed there at 2am - we know there is a coffee fueled machine ready to help us.

[Ocean1]

I'd rather see the dictators pay for their food before making the doctors pay for theirs, but yes this is an out of date rule back from when 1) the doctors worked extreme hours & 2) the food was hospital owned not privatised & thus was at cost not costly!

Fine. Find out what “dictators” lunches cost and post it up.

And who makes the food ain’t relevant, who pays for it is.

Most of us , so you speak for most of us then ?..well not me for a start
Where does your authority come from to speak for most of us ?...
Out of your imagination me thinks...

So post up a poll. I’m picking a comfortable majority of taxpayers would rather doctors didn’t skim $9 million a year from their health taxes to pay for lunch, but if you’ve got evidence to the contrary let’s see it.

The article said "Junior doctors" not doctors - and they earn less than $80,000 - as well as working strange hours - so they eat at the hospital cafes ..

Yes, junior doctors. Do you know what that means? They’re journeymen, they've got their doctorate and they’re attached to an accredited training institution for a couple of years to practice on the public under supervision. That almost always means one of the larger DHB emergency departments. It also means they fall under the New Zealand resident doctors association, possibly the most virulent and militant union in the country.

And knowing a few of them I’d say their income ranges from $60k (basic wages) to $90k, plus a range of perks that’d make any politician blush.

Technically it still is.
Feed the doctors - they stay in the hospital - so an emergency resource is at hand - also means doctors don't rush home for dinner - so do overtime.

Unless you have a way to perform medical procedures without a doctor - I am more than willing to pay $9m for un-eating robots that perform such wonders.
But then I foresee no need for hospitals. Just insert $2 into the local vending machine for your medical needs.

Or we pay the doctors lunch, which they must consume at the hospital cafe, and when we get rushed there at 2am - we know there is a coffee fueled machine ready to help us.

Bollox, by no stretch of the imagination is a doctor’s lunch “health spending”. Under exactly the same logic nurses would be eligible for some $100 million of free lunches. All of the “public safety” arguments ignore one important fact: the rest of the world pays for their own lunch and there’s every reason to expect junior doctors to do the same, they get enough handouts as it is.

[gwigs]

[QUOTE=Ocean1;1130610507]Fine. Find out what “dictators” lunches cost and post it up.





So post up a poll. I’m picking a comfortable majority of taxpayers would rather doctors didn’t skim $9 million a year from their health taxes to pay for lunch, but if you’ve got evidence to the contrary let’s see it.





You post up a poll ...youre the one who claims to speak for most of us...
And you can tell us what dictators lunches cost...

[Ocean1]

You post up a poll ...youre the one who claims to speak for most of us...
And you can tell us what dictators lunches cost...

That's not the way it works, dude, I don't have to prove your claims for you.

You're the one that's concerned about dictators lunch costs, you tell us why.

[gwigs]

That's not the way it works, dude, I don't have to prove your claims for you.

You're the one that's concerned about dictators lunch costs, you tell us why.

What claims...? I, m not a Dude either...

Yes you need to prove your claims that most of us agree with you otherwise you are talking crap as usual